Debating the fundament of failed futurism
@PeterThiel published a provocative book review of The Decadent Society. For most of the 21st-Century, he has been puzzled by the apparent stagnation of progress, in science, technology and the economy.
We disagree:https://flic.kr/p/2iszfE1
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Replying to @FutureJurvetson @peterthiel
I don't think this is *all* local perception — what of e.g.
@patrickc &@michael_nielsen's take?https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/575665/ …1 reply 3 retweets 9 likes -
Replying to @webdevMason @peterthiel and
When you ask physicists to rate the value of physics prizes, one can excuse them for seeing the past more vividly since: 1) old discoveries have had more time to percolate out as foundational blocks of other discoveries 2) they learned about them in school 3) they don't compete
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Replying to @webdevMason @FutureJurvetson and
I agree with the effect that Steve Jurvetson discusses, but I really think that Peter Thiel's more broad identification with systemic dysfunction in society is worth looking at. I kept hearing RE: Climate Change that Americans are good in a crisis, and here we are in a crisis...
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Replying to @DanielleFong @webdevMason and
I think Eric Weinstein made a good point in Episode 1 of the Portal when he noted that an enormous amount of the contribution in many fields of science and technology have come from physics thinking and physics minds populating new orchards and getting all the low hanging fruit
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@EricRWeinstein that if you actually did an accounting on the outsize effect that physics has had, even recently, on the modern world, that it would be enormous, by far the plurality. They invented pretty much modern mole bio, much of CS, data science, and so on.
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Replying to @DanielleFong @webdevMason and
@EricRWeinstein that you seriously undersell it if you look at, for example, only particle physics -- the economic impact of the discovery of the quark is perhaps 0, whereas CERN created the conditions to launch the Web, etc.0 replies 2 retweets 4 likesThanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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