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Helping customer success teams w/ @benedictfritz at http://Arrows.to  (We also make apps for clients: http://NoSmallThings.com ) Past: @housecraftapp @oneshot @twilio etc

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    1. Ryan Singer‏ @rjs May 15
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      I'm guessing this has a lot to do with the tech stack. Unnecessary microservices and/or unnecessary front-end heavy tech like React. These kind of things make the stack taller, requiring more dev labor for the same surface area.https://twitter.com/rjs/status/1261443696538480640?s=20 …

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      Ryan Singer @rjs
      Just got an email from a Shape Up reader... "I currently work on a team of 2 designers and 15 devs" I'm seeing this ~ 1/10 ratio of designers/programmers more often than I expected. At Basecamp the ratio is more like 1/2. Very different world.
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    2. DZ‏ @DanielZarick May 15
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      Also, I feel, an undervaluing of design and the iterations required in good work.

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    3. Joel  ⛈‏ @jhooks May 15
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      We use React and have a similar ratio and don’t generally suffer in productivity from the tech as far as I can tell. Tools matter for sure but there is some measure of taste involved and a huge dollup of culture and practice.

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    4. DZ‏ @DanielZarick May 15
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      Yeah I think it’s more about “this team is more likely to overcomplicate what could be simpler solutions.” There are definitely good react codebases and very horrible rails codebases.

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    5. Joel  ⛈‏ @jhooks May 15
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      respect for design, process, and iteration is the fundamental recipe Can be accomplished with a variety of stacks and tools.

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    6. Ryan Singer‏ @rjs May 15
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      Unnecessary complexity in tech is a tax. You can afford to pay the tax if you compensate in other ways. But you're still paying it.

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    7. Ryan Singer‏ @rjs May 15
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      Ryan Singer Retweeted Ryan Singer

      Re: "culture and practice" agree and would love to unpack that. This is one specific lead. Any others?https://twitter.com/rjs/status/1261467207470469120?s=20 …

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      Ryan Singer @rjs
      Yes, at Basecamp we have the awesome advantage of designers who code. But it's not a two-level thing: from throwing hi-fi mockups over a wall → coding designers. There's a level between: throw the right 20% of the design over the wall to specify macro behavior. Huge gains.
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    8. DZ‏ @DanielZarick May 15
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      Not sure what you’re looking for, but I’ve worked with tons of devs (I myself am a designer who codes full stack) who just seem to have blindness towards simple solutions. I’ve never been able to unpack it or find a reason.

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    9. Ryan Singer‏ @rjs May 15
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      Agree that's probably irreducible in some cases. One has to combine lots of skills to find simple solutions. But I think the context is a big factor too. Devs are often given too tight constraints or no constraints. Shaping can unlock creativity by setting clearer boundaries.

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      DZ‏ @DanielZarick May 15
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      Totally agree. I was a very young PM then and our whole culture was focused on tightly defining tasks+deliverables. I would always argue that by doing so we’d remove any ability for a dev to care about the solution let alone use more of their creativity to find a better solution.

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        1. Joel  ⛈‏ @jhooks May 15
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          the developer/designer distinction often gives developers the impression that they aren’t designers I love that Shaping removes the visual/graphic design aspects from the design process. Makes design more accessible.

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