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As always, Matthew Prince () is full of shit. Kiwi Farms has spent years openly coordinating and supporting extreme doxxing, harassment and libel campaigns aimed at pushing trans and autistic people to kill themselves. It didn't just escalate.
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i like this man. i will be using his rom if i get an android phone again. thank you for speaking up about this sir, lot of people in the android modding community dont give a shit or go against it.
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matter of fact i was harassed and had my phone number leaked back when i was a rom maintainer for my phone. left me with a distaste for that community. its great seeing someone invoced in android modding step up and talk about kiwifarms. thank you.
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We don't consider ourselves part of that community. We avoid the term 'custom ROM' because it's inaccurate and doesn't make much sense. GrapheneOS deviates far less from AOSP than the vast majority of stock Android operating systems. We use the term 'aftermarket OS' instead.
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What we do is serious full-time software/security engineering and security research. GrapheneOS isn't a hobby project and we just don't see ourselves as part of that community. Also, companies already sell phones with GrapheneOS and in the future we want phones built to run it.
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that sounds great, i havent heard that much of the project, even when i was interested in phone modding. sounds interesting.
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We have an overview of what we provide over standard Android 13 (AOSP or stock Pixel OS) at grapheneos.org/features.
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ive been reading this page and it sounds incredibly interesting to me. a Sandboxed Google Play implementation would have been great to see when i still used android and started tinkering with microG (which i noticed you took a deserved jab at).
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Nice thing about the sandboxed Google Play approach is that it runs in an instance of the same app sandbox used to sandbox each app using it via the Google Play SDK and other Google libraries. Doesn't give Google Play code ability to do anything it couldn't do via the libraries.
I think what's impressive about our compatibility layer is that we got it 99% working without giving it a single special privilege or making it the backend for anything in the OS. It's truly a normal sandboxed app with no special capability and yet barely anything is broken.
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