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Can you explain to me why both you and Cloudflare psee roviding DDoS protection to Switter to be hosting it, but you don't consider them to be hosting Kiwi Farms by providing them with the same service? Still waiting for an answer. You repeated the claim about hosting yourself.
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Why speculate? In Vice's reporting this [image 1] is the reason which Cloudflare gave, which relates [image 2] to the "otherwise unlawful" matter in the terms of service.
Elsewhere: CF have already said they will comply with law, so make KF illegal.
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Again, statements from Cloudflare's PR department are not a reliable source about why the company did something, and Cloudflare giving that as reasoning to journalists and having it reported as their reasoning in articles doesn't change that the source is Cloudflare PR.
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I'm also not sure in what world Kiwi Farms is legal content. I recommend you visit Kiwi Farms and browse through what they do there. If you follow any trans women in tech, how about you look up their threads there and see what the site is all about. You don't actually seem aware.
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> I'm also not sure in what world Kiwi Farms is legal content
Some place a bit south of you. Lacks a Queen. Has inflated notions of its importance.
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Kiwi Farms is definitely not legal content in the US. Running intense harassment campaigns with extreme doxxing, harassment, threats, libel, etc. against people who are not public figures is not even borderline legal. There's little question what they do is illegal in the US.
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At some point Kiwi Farms will get shut down by law enforcement because of their blatant involvement in the illegal activities by their members. That doesn't need to happen for Cloudflare to remove it. It's 100% clear the site exists for the purpose of doxxing/libel/harassment.
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I concur that it's vile; the problem is that there are also clearly people who think that other things, such as planned parenthood, or gender reassignment, are for some reason offensive to *themselves* and therefore should be censored.
Slippery slopes exist.
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It's you drawing the connection. There's absolutely no shortage of hosting providers willing to host those kinds of content. There is a shortage of hosting providers for sex workers, and Cloudflare bans their content. They don't stand for the people who actually need it.
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Cloudflare removes completely legal content every day. They take a strong stance against completely legal spam which is at most an annoyance. They aren't legally required to do it. They stand behind doxxing/harassment of autistic/trans people but not spammers. Which is worse?
> They don't stand for the people who actually need it.
Maybe you should try *encouraging* them to do that?
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You've already seen that I've repeatedly criticized them for censoring others and being incredibly hypocritical. I don't know why you're pretending otherwise. My suggestion for you is that you engage with people in an honest way and don't repeatedly misrepresent things.