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Daniel Micay
@DanielMicay
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@AlecMuffett
considers doxxing, harassing and libelling trans and autistic people who for the most part are not even close to being public figures is 'protected speech'. Also, a reminder 'protected speech' applies to US government, not a hosting company.
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Alec Muffett
@AlecMuffett
Replying to @DanielMicay and @jevinskie
> It's you making the claim that Kiwi Farms is political speech Where, precisely? I'm not attempting to distinguish political or any other protected form of speech. Planned Parenthood likewise is not likely to be political speech.
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Alec Muffett
@AlecMuffett
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Actually, I am just saying: if you want to win, make the speech illegal in the USA and then exactly as-per FOSTA impacted Switter, then Cloudflare should be forced to act. And when you do, keep an eye on the likely unintended consequences.
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Alec Muffett
@AlecMuffett
Replying to @DanielMicay and @jevinskie
Ah, a negative space argument - by allowing it, it's not protected speech; the confusion comes from me believing that all speech is protected unless it is otherwise. Find laws that make it illegal. Apply them in the USA. Then Cloudflare will surely apply their terms of service.
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Daniel Micay
@DanielMicay
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@AlecMuffett
Engaging in harassment campaigns against people with doxxing, threats, libel, etc. and doing swatting, etc. is not legal. The content on Kiwi Farms is clearly not legal. Kiwi Farms doesn't have a lack of moderation or something like that. Kiwi Farms are the ones orchestrating it.
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Daniel Micay
@DanielMicay
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Why does Cloudflare consider Kiwi Farms openly doing doxxing / harassment / libel campaigns against trans and autistic people to be valid content for their services, but if I report a spam site they'll drop it within hours or days? There is no law requiring Cloudflare to do that.
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