"Yes, yes, Cloudflare should have taken a principled stance and broken the illiberal American FOSTA law, because clearly they are in a position to fight for the rights of SWers, rather than American legislators."
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"Cloudflare censors the gays and sends your kids to Nazi websites" is a headline that writes itself.
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Especially for angry conspiracy theorists who want to fight the power.
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Cloudflare is objectively hosting a censorship service (1.1.1.3) they recommend for schools and libraries to adopt. The service uses data sourced from right wing evangelical groups. Have you read Cloudflare's own blog post with their apology? They all but admit to that there.
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I don't see how you can consider it a mistake to block LGBTQ content by using block lists provided by a group which classifies it as inappropriate adult content and therefore gets everyone subscribing to their services such as schools to block that content as porn when it isn't.
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Cloudflare didn't mistakenly choose to use a service provided by those people. They also make it seem as if they did extensive testing and put a lot of thought into what gets filtered. LGBTQ content was almost entirely filtered out, and a lot still gets filtered out 'by mistake'.
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On the other hand, while the SafeSearch service they claim to be emulating obviously filters out sites like Kiwi Farms and the Daily Stormer, Cloudflare's service does not, even after it was reported to them repeatedly. It's a deliberate choice. No 'conspiracy theories' here.
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> I don't see how you can consider it a mistake to block LGBTQ content
Hoo boy, where have you been? I've seen 2Bn people get disconnected because someone used a 32-bit counter on a sampling logger. I've seen Tor users mixed-up with spammers.
This shit happens.
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Okay, so you don't acknowledge that sourcing content blocking lists from a far right evangelical group is a problem and is why the content not only got almost entirely filtered out at launch but is still often being filtered out today 'by mistake'. Again, you're disingenuous.
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You don't acknowledge the points that myself and others bring up and instead you just go back to your trusty strawman arguments. You're full of shit. I don't see much more point in engaging in a discussion with you than the Kiwi Farms trolls you thought provided useful input.
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Cloudflare is 100% aware that they're using biased sources of block lists which are blocking content that Cloudflare supposedly doesn't want to block. They're also 100% aware that Kiwi Farms, Daily Stormer and other nazi sites are NOT filtered by their 1.1.1.3 service by design.
> Cloudflare is 100% aware that they're using biased sources of block lists
"they're" is doing some heavy lifting there; it pretends to be "they are" but actually is "they were" and misses that "they fixed it"
theregister.com/2021/05/21/clo
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As I've clearly stated above, Cloudflare has not fixed the problem. LGBTQ is still being blocked because far right evangelical organizations are not an unbiased source to obtain block lists for porn. Cloudflare is aware of the bias and is still using those block lists as sources.
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