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Before posting this,

liked tweets from Kiwi Farms members responding to a thread where I explained how Cloudflare runs a censored DNS service (1.1.1.3) which has become known for going beyond the purported scope and blocking LGBTQ content.

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Alec Muffett

@AlecMuffett

Sep 3

<some portion of infosec & swe twitter> "It's not censorship when *I* want it, because I'm one of the *good* people / because *those* people are objectively trolls." Perhaps they should adopt a convenient hashtag, something like #NotAllCensorship?

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Daniel Micay

@DanielMicay

Sep 3

Since he obviously read my thread(s),

@AlecMuffett

is also clearly aware that Cloudflare censored a completely Mastadon instance Switter and many other sites. It's a disingenuous strawman and he's also just projecting. He's okay with censorship when it matches his own views...

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Alas you're not aware of my pro-SWer work; but I also believe that Cloudflare is on the path to be less censorious — if only civil society can stop trying to make them moreso. The general problem, though, is this:

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Alec Muffett

@AlecMuffett

Sep 3

Just in case we're missing the point, here:

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If internet infrastructure

is forced to "drop the trolls,"

remember that
#PlannedParenthood

will probably suffer
the same fate

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Cloudflare expressed their regret for dropping the Daily Stormer and 8chan. They didn't express any regret for the many sites associated with sex workers they've blocked. They literally run censorship-as-a-service (1.1.1.3) and push for schools / libraries to adopt it...

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You're also simply making another disingenuous argument. There is no slippery slope from blocking a site which openly exists for the purpose of doxxing / harassing / libelling autistic and trans people. Cloudflare is still enforcing their ToS for sex workers, but not Kiwi Farms.

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I concur that it's a travesty, and my suspicion is that it's somehow related to the Exodus-Cry (and related organisations) crusade against SWer payment mechanisms. Calling for *more* censorship, just of people who *we* deem worthy of it, is not a progressive step.

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No, it isn't. There was no legal requirement for them to ban Switter and the government didn't request that they remove it either. Cloudflare also claims that their reverse proxy is not hosting Kiwi Farms and therefore they aren't responsible/liable. It's very inconsistent.

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If Cloudflare is not a hosting provider for Kiwi Farms, then they were not a hosting provider for Switter. If Cloudflare was providing hosting services to Switter, then they are providing hosting services to Kiwi Farms. Kiwi Farms is also clearly doing things that ARE illegal.

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On the other hand, Switter clearly didn't exist for that purpose and it's simply yet another disingenuous argument. Cloudflare is thoroughly dishonest in how they've presented these things and their blog posts are not a reliable source for any information on these topics, sorry.

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> their blog posts are not a reliable source Try vice.com/en/article/8xk

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None of this counters the fact that they were not legally required to remove the content. They went out of their way to remove it. According to Cloudflare, when it comes to Kiwi Farms, they aren't hosting the content, but when it comes to Switter it seems that's not consistent.