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Daniel Micay
@DanielMicay
Before posting this,
@AlecMuffett
liked tweets from Kiwi Farms members responding to a thread where I explained how Cloudflare runs a censored DNS service (1.1.1.3) which has become known for going beyond the purported scope and blocking LGBTQ content.
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Alec Muffett
@AlecMuffett
<some portion of infosec & swe twitter> "It's not censorship when *I* want it, because I'm one of the *good* people / because *those* people are objectively trolls." Perhaps they should adopt a convenient hashtag, something like #NotAllCensorship?
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Daniel Micay
@DanielMicay
Since he obviously read my thread(s),
@AlecMuffett
is also clearly aware that Cloudflare censored a completely Mastadon instance Switter and many other sites. It's a disingenuous strawman and he's also just projecting. He's okay with censorship when it matches his own views...
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Alec Muffett
@AlecMuffett
Replying to
@DanielMicay
Alas you're not aware of my pro-SWer work; but I also believe that Cloudflare is on the path to be less censorious — if only civil society can stop trying to make them moreso. The general problem, though, is this:
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Alec Muffett
@AlecMuffett
Just in case we're missing the point, here:
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large text reads: If internet infrastructure is forced to "drop the trolls," remember that #PlannedParenthood will probably suffer the same fate with a wry unhappy smiley face.
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Daniel Micay
@DanielMicay
Replying to
@AlecMuffett
Cloudflare expressed their regret for dropping the Daily Stormer and 8chan. They didn't express any regret for the many sites associated with sex workers they've blocked. They literally run censorship-as-a-service (1.1.1.3) and push for schools / libraries to adopt it...
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Daniel Micay
@DanielMicay
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@DanielMicay
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@AlecMuffett
You're also simply making another disingenuous argument. There is no slippery slope from blocking a site which openly exists for the purpose of doxxing / harassing / libelling autistic and trans people. Cloudflare is still enforcing their ToS for sex workers, but not Kiwi Farms.
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Alec Muffett
@AlecMuffett
Replying to
@DanielMicay
I concur that it's a travesty, and my suspicion is that it's somehow related to the Exodus-Cry (and related organisations) crusade against SWer payment mechanisms. Calling for *more* censorship, just of people who *we* deem worthy of it, is not a progressive step.
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Daniel Micay
@DanielMicay
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@AlecMuffett
Kiwi Farms is not political speech. Kiwi Farms is a doxxing, harassment and libel forum which openly exists for the purpose of pushing their targets out of society and trying to get them to kill themselves. Kiwi Farms is used to silence free speech through illegal aggression.
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Daniel Micay
@DanielMicay
Replying to
@DanielMicay
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@AlecMuffett
Silencing doxxing, harassment and libel is not silencing any legitimate speech. Kiwi Farms is also not simply a place where that occurs. It doesn't simply have bad moderation. It's the purpose of the site and the admins/moderators don't just encourage it but participate/lead it.
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