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Daniel Micay
@DanielMicay
Cloudflare drops sites from their service on a daily basis for having content they dislike. They remove sites with adult content, support for sex workers, etc. They also drop sites they deem to be posting spam. Cloudflare's censored 1.1.1.3 DNS blocks lots of LGBT content, etc.
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Daniel Micay
@DanielMicay
They're too cowardly to stand behind their decisions so they won't mention sites like Kiwi Farms by name. Their official accounts and executives all have their replies disabled on Twitter to shut down dissent. Their free speech act is a ridiculous sham. They drop lots of sites.
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Daniel Micay
@DanielMicay
Cloudflare does FAR MORE content moderation than required by law. They aren't a free speech host. They remove speech they disagree with every day. They host Kiwi Farms because they support the content on it. They dropped sites used by sex workers because they consider it immoral.
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Robert Brydon
@BrydonRobert
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@DanielMicay
I agree with your broader points, but I didn't think they had taken a moral/philosophical stance on sex workers, I thought that they dropped those because of liability under FOSTA-SESTA? Sex workers being legally riskier than KF is outrageous in its own right, of course.
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Daniel Micay
@DanielMicay
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@BrydonRobert
They were not required to take down those sites by those laws. They used it as a justification, but they were not required or asked to take them down. They prove that's not the case every day by hosting literal terrorist organization sites, sanctioned entites, Kiwi Farms, etc.
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Robert Brydon
@BrydonRobert
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@DanielMicay
I'm just saying that, to my knowledge, they haven't publicly cited immorality as the reason for taking down "adult" content. I was wondering if I'd missed somewhere they did say that explicitly.
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Robert Brydon
@BrydonRobert
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@DanielMicay
I wouldn't claim to be an expert, but FOSTA-SESTA creates a lot of potential liability for hosting sex workers content. It is deeply messed up that there is higher risk in hosting that than hosting KF, but that is definitely my understanding of the law in the US right now.
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Daniel Micay
@DanielMicay
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@BrydonRobert
A few huge corporations presenting this as a justification for something they decided to do doesn't make it true. Plenty of other hosting companies didn't do this and never tried to champion themselves as free speech heroes like Cloudflare.
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Robert Brydon
@BrydonRobert
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@DanielMicay
Advocacy organizations and companies who want to host sex workers say it creates unsustainable costs and risks. I take the EFF's claims that SESTA forced companies to drop content as face value. Cloudflare is not a good actor here. But I don't see this part as hypocritical.
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