america should be more like northern european countries, where (checks notes) you can be imprisoned without being charged with a crime
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Seems like America already got there first, the Netherlands is just learning from them.
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US mostly has a 72 hour limit on being held without charges. Netherlands and most of Europe are far worse.
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Sir, the United Kingdom also has a maximum 72-hour hold limit (although there is a 14-day limit if you're under suspicion of terrorism).
However, the United States has a little beautiful place called Guantanamo Bay where there are people that haven't been charged for years.
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United Kingdom sent prisoners to Guantanamo Bay and keeps people held there, as do other European countries. There are people who are European citizens held there only because the countries won't take them back. It doesn't really seem like the same topic as this one.
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Sure, I don't think Europe is great by any means necessary - but do you think other countries could send prisoners there unless the authority in charge allowed for it?
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Mistreating prisoners of war seems like a different situation than domestic law enforcement. I don't think any of the people there were detained in the US or were US citizens. Also, the main reason it kept on going perpetually is their countries wouldn't take them back.
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Ukraine has a bunch of Russian prisoners of war in their custody right now. They don't have to charge them with anything or give them trials.
If after that war is over, Russia refuses to take back some of the soldiers, what should Ukraine do with them? Release them locally?
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They probably don't want to release people who fought against them locally. Charging them with something doesn't necessarily make sense. In order for the US to charge people they imprisoned there, they had to come up with a reason what they did was a war crime, not just war.
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In many cases they probably just couldn't come up with an actual reason for charging them with something. That doesn't mean they didn't fight in a war against the US. If they simply shot at US soldiers, planned military target attacks, etc. then there wasn't any actual crime.
For example consider a Russian soldier who Ukraine suspects committed war crimes and surrendered to them. Ukraine lacks evidence to show they committed war crimes. Russia refuses to take them back after the war because they surrendered against orders. What should happen to them?



