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Thread on the many conflicting reasons voiced on delays under five vaccines. We delayed kid vaccines until after the Omicron wave because of near misses of symptomatic VE targets set two years ago that are no longer met for adult ones. And still slow.

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Updating this thread now that Moderna's submission is complete. Over the past few weeks, we've heard at least four distinct explanations for the proposed June review. A brief history of the narratives surrounding this (unprecedented) delay

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Vaccines for over 5 no longer meet the "prevent 50% of breakthroughs" goal but we still urge people to get vaccinated because we have Two. Years. Of. Data. on their many benefits besides prevention of symptoms. Vaccines also dramatically reduce MIS-C rates, a threat to youngest.

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Like the January wave, much of this is vaccine-preventable. We’re still waiting.

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This prolonged #NYC #COVID surge is now steadily increasing pressure on emergency departments. Particularly striking is illness in children 0-4 years old with ED visits (per 100K) similar to first half of January #Omicron wave. (Data from @nycHealthy github.com/nychealth/coro)

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Reportedly, they are about to approve a *third* dose for a kid that is 61 months-old, while an immunocompromised kid that's 59 months-old cannot get a single dose, even off-label with pediatrician recommendations. (Special restriction only for this).

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I just put it together that I've been fully vaccinated for a little over a year. It's shocking that there still isn't a vaccine available for ages 2-5. I would be at wits end if I had a child that age.

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Wheee, self-sabotaging 5D chess might hinder Fall vaccination plans for adults as well. You know what's creates an impresson of not a very effective vaccination plan? One that doesn't approve vaccines in a timely manner and does effective outreach. nytimes.com/2022/05/18/hea

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So, CDC is worried updating vaccines might "create an impression that we don’t have a very effective vaccination program". Having vaccines available only for a long-extinct strain when we could easily update them would surely not be the answer here to fixing that "impression".

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I read that was one of the benefits of the mRNA vaccines is that they can be updated quickly to account for new variants but I thought vaccine companies weren't updating them for greed reasons but it looks like its just incompetence?

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The companies are quickly updating them and would be more than happy to earn money from updated vaccines. It's the FDA and CDC sabotaging it by trying to influence public opinion with poorly conceived mind games instead of setting effective policy. Other countries follow US too.

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They did the same thing with masks, telling people they aren't effective without training and should be reserved for health care professionals instead of mass producing them. Imagine if they'd given everyone an elastomeric mask and several sets of N95 / P100 filters for them.

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Nice example of institutional stupidity happens in our hospitals in Ontario, Canada where everyone is required to take off their mask in the high traffic indoor reception area when they enter the hospital. You have to put on one of their standard low effectiveness cloth masks.

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If you walk in to a Toronto hospital with a fancy no exhaust N95 / P100 elastomeric mask, they'll make you take it off, breathe in the hospital reception air directly and put on one of their ineffective cloth masks. I think the airlines in Canada and the US were doing the same.

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They settle on policies that are easiest for them to implement and enforce instead of what's effective. Same thing for vaccines and masks. Canada and most other countries also just largely mirror FDA / CDC policies / decisions and are incapable of making their own decisions.

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