Sure, they've provided hacked together major version upgrades years late without most of the security updates.
For past devices, they've provided delayed privacy/security updates for at best around 2 years which gets cut off with the death of support from the hardware vendor(s).
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How does that make them an industry leader? Apple has been providing 6 years of proper privacy/security updates and major version upgrades.
Compare that to 2 years of often late privacy/security updates and very delayed major version upgrades. Android 9 is from mid-2018...
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Fairphone 2 came out in 2015. Android 9 is from 2018. Them updating to Android 9 in 2021 is really just doing 3 years of support very badly rather than having 6 years of updates as they want to portray it. It's a failure, not a success. Makes no sense. Compare to iPhones...
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Compare anything to iPhone and updates are poor, but I don’t want Apple. This is Android. Ethos of Fairphone isn’t same as ethos of Apple. Fairphone are trying, I’m sure in future things will improve; just like 10 yr old laptops can run Linux and still be secure so will Fairphone
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Using Android isn't a reason for the lack of long-term support. It doesn't place limitations on that and isn't the reason for it. Comparing to Apple is entirely fair and Fairphone doesn't compare well to vendors shipping 3-4 years of proper updates according to schedule either.
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Compare the products and decisions made for them with the rhetoric and it doesn't hold up. Claiming to be offering 6 years of support while only being in the position to do it properly for 2 years and likely not even executing on that well is dishonest and is pretty much a scam.
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> just like 10 yr old laptops can run Linux and still be secure so will Fairphone
This simply isn't true and isn't how things actually work. On a 10 year old laptop, where exactly are you getting updates for the firmware, and who is maintaining the driver code, etc. properly?
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I’m not Edward Snowden. I’m not desoldering microphones! If a device works it works and I take other precautions like encryption. If you’re suggesting GrapheneOS is unhackable, I’d disagree. Even modern devices get targeted and there are tools sold to LE that do it easily!
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You're completely derailing the topic with misinformation, absurd claims and dishonest interpretations of what I've said. Stop pushing misinformation and scams on my timeline. Stop lying about what I've said. Just stop following me and don't reply to me going forward. Thanks.
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No I’m responding and you dont like it and as is your usual way, you can give it but not take it. You’re happy to run down Fairphone, but when it comes back at you in a way you don’t like you cry off. See ya!
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What I don't like is that you're pushing clear cut misinformation, making baseless claims and are dishonestly misrepresenting what I've said.
I can now see that you're here in entirely bad faith and are engaging in dishonest behavior as part of harassing me. Archived + blocked.
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Can see that you showed up here in bad faith to derail the conversation. You aren't welcome to participate here or in any other part of the GrapheneOS community or the other communities we manage. Further interactions with any of us are unwanted and will be treated as harassment.
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