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This device is going to get at best around 2 years of proper security updates due to using an SoC launched in late 2020 with 3 years of support. They're claiming they'll be providing something they won't really be providing without doing the work for it.

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Fairphone 4 has an incredible 5-year warranty, aims for 6 years of updates

If you want a smartphone with a long life, Fairphone is leading the industry.

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Isn’t the point that they have actually done this with past devices and spares and even upgrades to modules are available

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Sure, they've provided hacked together major version upgrades years late without most of the security updates. For past devices, they've provided delayed privacy/security updates for at best around 2 years which gets cut off with the death of support from the hardware vendor(s).

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How does that make them an industry leader? Apple has been providing 6 years of proper privacy/security updates and major version upgrades. Compare that to 2 years of often late privacy/security updates and very delayed major version upgrades. Android 9 is from mid-2018...

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Fairphone 2 came out in 2015. Android 9 is from 2018. Them updating to Android 9 in 2021 is really just doing 3 years of support very badly rather than having 6 years of updates as they want to portray it. It's a failure, not a success. Makes no sense. Compare to iPhones...

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Compare anything to iPhone and updates are poor, but I don’t want Apple. This is Android. Ethos of Fairphone isn’t same as ethos of Apple. Fairphone are trying, I’m sure in future things will improve; just like 10 yr old laptops can run Linux and still be secure so will Fairphone

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Using Android isn't a reason for the lack of long-term support. It doesn't place limitations on that and isn't the reason for it. Comparing to Apple is entirely fair and Fairphone doesn't compare well to vendors shipping 3-4 years of proper updates according to schedule either.

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Compare the products and decisions made for them with the rhetoric and it doesn't hold up. Claiming to be offering 6 years of support while only being in the position to do it properly for 2 years and likely not even executing on that well is dishonest and is pretty much a scam.

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> just like 10 yr old laptops can run Linux and still be secure so will Fairphone This simply isn't true and isn't how things actually work. On a 10 year old laptop, where exactly are you getting updates for the firmware, and who is maintaining the driver code, etc. properly?

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