Also, for the time being, I'm going to switch to dual booting on this machine while still also using my older workstation. So, I can either have 2 workstations doing builds or I can be doing gaming on this while also switching over regularly to test new builds on the other, etc.
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I ran a cad design office with two ws x 7 prs, have it all stillb but i bet moore's law did slow down but not to a standstill,.. Awell, benchmarking will get me where i need to go
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Threadripper chips are massive with massive power usage and heat spread across the huge die. They need special coolers and you need a really good one to truly take advantage of them. They bypassed chip density limits with die size. It's a massive server CPU but with high clocks.
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Oil or liquid submersion cooling with funny sounding chemicals would be great for that
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The problem with buying a CPU like amd.com/en/products/cp or amd.com/en/products/cp (the 2 highest end Zen 2 Threadripper chips) is that I wouldn't even trust an AIO cooler to avoid killing them. It has to be reliable air cooling. AIOs are actually worse than air anyways...
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icegiantcooling.com is the only way to make 64 core Threadripper work properly without risking that massive investment in a $4000 or $5500 USD CPU if your water cooling loop leaks, etc.
The main issue is that it's such a ridiculous amount of heat from a single huge CPU die.
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NH-D15 works as well as icegiantcooling.com for a more typical CPU. It's as good or perhaps even a bit better at taking away heat from a smaller, denser CPU.
They only have noctua.at/en/nh-u14s-tr4 for Threadripper though and even an NH-D15 version wouldn't be enough for 64c.
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I'm guessing that AMD won't bother with higher core counts for Zen 3 even if only because there was so little interest there was in making proper coolers for the current Threadripper generation. There wasn't a single useful AIO made for it. All worse than Noctua's offering...
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I bet you're right it's a commercial issue, surely its really not a problem to solve the engineering of it, funds permitting sais the aerospace engineer :-)
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The chips make sense for AMD since despite being very low volume, they're surely extremely high margin products. It's hard to get a proper motherboard and cooler ecosystem to develop around them since the volume isn't high enough. Motherboards were largely fine though.
The main issue with the motherboards is they needed to make newer revisions to handle the power demands of the 32/64 core chips, especially when overclocked. I had trouble finding anywhere to get any decent new revision boards, etc. It was painful. Then chip shortage...
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That's another thing all together. Anyway, these guys build the immersion cooling for microsoft datacenter, might shoot them a mail, who knows: