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✨saleem✨ ⍼
@saleemrash1d
wait WHAT, this is the "issue" people are talking about? that's ridiculous, you literally cannot defend an Android device against apps which can use system permissions
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henry 🌘
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this isn’t a contact tracing problem, and painting it as one does a huge disservice to the privacy engineering that went into getting that protocol built and deployed
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✨saleem✨ ⍼
@saleemrash1d
fwiw, "apps which can use system permissions" are not the same as "preinstalled apps" — there are plenty of preinstalled apps that aren't privileged in any way
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Daniel Micay
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As long as it's disabled, it's essentially uninstalled with the apk still present in the OS images. They could auto-install apps for their partnerships as part the initial setup wizard and then users would be able to opt-out, and it wouldn't waste space in the OS images.
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My issue is I don't want it "essentially" uninstalled, I want it gone, it should've never been pre-installed and it should've never been made such that it can't be uninstalled. Basically it's the principle.
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Daniel Micay
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What I mean is that the OS has a package manager and it's possible for the app to be uninstalled. The apk is still present in the OS images though, and the package manager will still be aware of that and able to install it from there again.
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Daniel Micay
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Even if they didn't offer you a choice in the initial setup, they could still install them as part of it, and then you could fully remove the apps. Facebook is probably willing to pay more for baking it into the OS rather than just auto-installing it during initial setup though.