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something like Rust is what i wanted to use for OS kernels and embedded development for a decade or so, to the extent of designing a few languages for it what's the *next* thing y'all want to use for low-level development?

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steveklabnik

@steveklabnik

Apr 15, 2021

at first it was "they're a bunch of people who don't know what they're doing, bad language" then it was "rust is technically deficient for kernel work" then it was "linus will never allow it" the more we accomplish, the more desperate these folks get

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a debugger

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i've been talking to the author of pernosco about rr-for-embedded and while it's probably not going to happen in a truly useful way for the current gen of chips, it'd be fun to consider a next generation where it would be possible

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So my semi-joke response was actually wishing for "I can't figure out how to deploy lldb-server to an Android device and attach it to an ndk process on launch" but: That other thing you just said, that sounds friggin hype

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As far as embedded goes, something I think is underexplored is using emulators as the basis of a debugger. Don't have to negotiate with the CPU for debugging hooks if you are the CPU.