Unless you're going to reverify all those commits, I'm thinking re-signing them doesn't make sense. The best verifiability starts from storing them in incorruptible (widely distributed, offline, or immutable) ways.
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They're signed so that someone can come along, clone the sources and verify that those are genuinely our releases. It's not signed for our own usage. The signed tags are pushed after we've already finished using the sources for that release since our builds are ready for release.
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OK, so the idea is that you have that verifiability already and use the signatures to attest your belief that the code is sound (and matches the specified release) to its consumers? Makes sense.
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Yes, so it would make sense for us to be rotating the key and signing them all with a new key so that it's possible for people to verify a historical archive of the sources. We don't want to attest to everything that might be in a Git repository being genuine, just specific tags.
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The tags are our long-term archive of the sources. The vast majority of the repositories are downstream forks with patch sets to upstream code that are ported to each new stable release. It's regularly rebased to keep it as a clean sensible patch set that's actually maintainable.
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For those downstream forks, they're based off of upstream stable tags based on stable branches. There's usually an underlying upstream stable branch that switches every few months to a new one without the past few stable tags in the history since it diverged at a different point.
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Then there are the yearly major releases (for Chromium, every 6 weeks) where we have to port to a drastically different base OS.
The upstream tags are also signed for a similar reason. Due to lack GPG support for rotation, the keys for signing new tags essentially never change.
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Due to how Git does it, you also have no way to publish new signatures for the older tags. The value of those signatures will decline over time. Git's signed commit / tag support is also based on signing a SHA-1 hash chaining to others which is problematic and needs replacement.
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If signatures are in the merkle tree I don't think their value declines over time. Later signatures (by new key) attest that the earlier ones were made at a time when the old key was trusted. The history is like its own notary chain.
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I guess the problem is if the private key is compromised. You now lose faith in anything signed with that key, unless you know precisely when the compromise happened.
Even then, the git merkle tree can't be trusted to contain accurate timestamps.
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A private key that remains in use has endless opportunities to be compromised over time. It's best practice to regularly rotate to a new key with a proof that it's an authorized key rotation from the old key. Migrating to the new key everywhere should get handled automatically.
At that point, it makes sense to at least purge the current-2 key. The reason it makes sense to publish signatures alongside the old ones with the new key is so a previous compromise of a past key doesn't allow publishing a fake version of the archives of the code, etc.
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That can happen because of legacy cryptography having vulnerabilities discovered. GPG fingerprints are based on SHA-1. At some point, maybe someone can make a key with the same fingerprint. At some point, the RSA 4096 algorithm I chose many years ago for my key may be insecure.
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