Well I don't want to give up my ability to switch modems at any time as the landscape changes.
There are 2 modems you can use in the Librem5: puri.sm/faq/supported-
cdc-acm/cdc-eth are in-kernel at least and it would be worth hardening them more to protect many devices.
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Look, go ahead and get hardware that's insecure and unfixable from day one. Give up on trying to peddle scams and misinformation to me. You really don't know the subject matter, and it's not interesting to have you try to explain things to me that you don't know about.
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I was just sharing my current understanding in hopes you might give specific knowledge you might have about the hardware in question because that would be super interesting.
You claim the drivers for these modems are not secure. I am only trying to probe you to elaborate.
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I gave you plenty of information which you ignore and don't look into further, and you then go ahead with continuing to make the same clearly false and refuted claims over and over again. I don't see much point in talking to someone not being honest or acting in good faith.
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I am really sorry you see it that way.
So far your most specific stated issue with the desire to isolate the radios from the OS is that the drivers for these modems are badly designed.
I would love to learn specifics as I don't see a lot of concerns online.
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So, as before, ignoring most of what I am saying and just cherry-picking bits of it and misrepresenting the topic along with what I have said. I really don't see the point in any of these threads.
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I don't see why you have taken that view.
I fully take your overall point the librem5 and pinephone SoCs and drivers don't have anywhere near the research or support as pixels etc.
I just want to learn the specifics to start to better learn where my attention is best focused.
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Or comparable hardening and security features for firmware / hardware or the SoC. Or comparable security support. Or even just availability of security updates and ability to make them available to users. As I said before though, clear difference between those 2 companies/phones.
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I am very much excited about the Pinephone and I have one on the way. That said the Librem5 is doing at least a couple interesting things no one else is, so I feel both platforms are worth keeping an eye on (and maybe forking if needed because the schematics are open source!)
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A whole bunch of dishonest marketing and misinformation paired with anti-security sabotage and ridiculous ideology/reasoning is definitely 'interesting'.
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I can't recall anything notable like that from Pine64 aside from supporting/promoting a certain project doing that kind of thing but that's not comparable.

