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I don't see it that way at all. They're incredibly dishonest, not at all transparent, and do not really have the goal of making open hardware. They are explicitly anti-security and anti-privacy in many ways too. It's not a good hardware target and they won't ever make a good one.
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They do not share the goals or concepts of GrapheneOS at all. It is a bad target, they will always make bad targets for it, and they are not a viable partner or collaborator with an actual privacy/security focused project. Been burned already, others have too. No thanks.
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You're bringing it up at the same time as Pine64 which has similar technical issues but without nonsense from the company / leadership including lots of harm. It's also a bad target, with no sign of ever wanting to make a good one, but at least they don't lie and cause harm.
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At least Pine64 doesn't have deliberate anti-security measures and anti-security policies / ideology. It's just not technically advanced in that regard so it's far behind the status quo / industry standards (applies to both) but the reasons are better (lack of resources).
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> know it will boot without weeks of work Yet it won't. Good luck with functional AOSP on it, with them being hostile towards what you're doing too. > Anon wifi issues etc can be fixed. Nope, you can't magically fix hardware and firmware security issues.
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The hardware and firmware plays as much as a role in overall security as the OS. You can live in fantasy land and deny that all you want. Hardened OS on insecure hardware / firmware especially on a device from people with an anti-security ideology / approach sabotaging it...
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If that's what you want to do, it indicates that there isn't going to be much overlap in the way I want to approach custom hardware. I really can't see the use case for it as a stopgap, and it's hard to see the future path being compatible if that's what you want to do right now.
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