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Daniel Micay
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Brave has always been a sketchy browser reeking of desperation. I've taken issue with their usage of DRM, their decision to have a hard dependency on Play Services and their sketchy cryptocurrency activities including their very likely illegal ICO launch.
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Daniel Micay
@DanielMicay
I used to be optimistic about Brave, but I no longer consider it to be a good project. It has had some serious issues with security and the intent behind it is starting to seem nefarious. Monetizing other people's content was always sketchy and their DRM is going far beyond EME.
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Daniel Micay
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Their CEO jumps in to paint me as an ad fraud apologist and tell some sad story about the poor advertisers / ad companies hurt by ad fraud. Brave is a wolf in sheep's clothing. Privacy is not their core mission. The core mission is to rescue advertising.
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BrendanEich
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As for "scumbags", as far as I can tell, you are a friend of ad fraudsters. Lie in that bed you made (apples to apples: you do not require pairing tests of programmatic antifraud and I do not see you tweeting at programmatic ad vendors).
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Daniel Micay
@DanielMicay
Those poor advertisers. twitter.com/BrendanEich/st I don't think comparing themselves to Facebook/Google ad tech comes across the way he wants. Not sure why I expected more from a company founded by a known bigot after being pushed out of Mozilla only after it became a PR problem.
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BrendanEich
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Replying to @DanielMicay @justsee and @bcrypt
You picked a fight. "DRM" abuse, then "enforced viewing". Ad fraud is real and the $320B/year growing to $1T system uses JS nonsense against it, fruitlessly except for the CYA shakedown artists who sell tag-level antifraud. G & FB use what you mislabel "DRM". We aim to as well.
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Daniel Micay
@DanielMicay
Mozilla kept elevating him and treating him as someone to idolize despite knowing his views. Culture resulted in people being leaving the company. It was only when a tiny aspect of it (a donation) became a massive PR issue that he was pushed out. And... that's how you get Brave.
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Daniel Micay
@DanielMicay
Many similarities between the company cultures. Not a surprise that they recreated the worst aspects of Mozilla. They think of themselves as heroic underdogs saving the world. The ends justify the means. Shady and dishonest behavior is justified because they're the 'good guys'.
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Daniel Micay
@DanielMicay
Recent drama over their affiliate id nonsense seems a bit silly. They've been doing that kind of thing for a long time and are still going to be doing it. Other things like their ICO and shadow accounts taking money on behalf of sites are a lot worse in my opinion. DRM for ads...
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Unfortunate there's useful privacy work caught up in it. Don't bother feeling bad for them over the overreaction and misrepresentation of the affiliate id stuff. They pull this all the time. Look at the Scroll To Text Fragment news cycle. This is a taste of their own medicine.
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