Conversation

Looks like the only options for backing up a mailbox are offlineimap (a Python 2 tool that claims it's not under development anymore), imapfw (its replacement with last commit in 2017), and mbsync (a C tool). Is there really nothing better? I guess Python 2 > C, but =(
17
30
Replying to
What? Every public IMAP endpoint I ever used had WebPKI certificates. Half their docs are about using Gmail. And self-hosted setups should use free WebPKI certificates or their own roots, and likewise should require secure configuration by default, not be hung to dry.
1
1
Replying to and
STARTTLS services can still be used while enforcing TLS with valid Web PKI certificates. DANE is nice but relying on DNS with DNSSEC has other threats (registrars, etc.) and doesn't give cert transparency. DV certainly sucks but CT is very valuable and Web PKI is being improved.
2
The right way to use DANE is pinning keys. I don't think it makes much sense to use it to pin certificates. As a key pinning mechanism it's perfectly suited to be an additional security check and can live happily alongside Web PKI. CT is a nice check on registrars, not just CAs.
1
If you're thinking about DANE for HTTPS, yes PKIX-EE(1) is reasonably fit for purpose, if/when (some day) the browsers actually implement DANE. For SMTP, web PKI is not a good fit. See section 1.3 of RFC7672. MTA-STS is a kludge. WebPKI btw., is just as vulnerable to registrars
1
1
> WebPKI btw., is just as vulnerable to registrars CT with enforcement of SCTs at least provides an audit trail to detect a compromise or malicious behavior. There isn't a choice between using Web PKI or DANE since they work fine together. Don't see why someone wouldn't do both.
1
CT works much better in theory than in practice. Only the big players have the resources to audit the logs and determine whether any unauthorised certificates have been issued. It is a pretty high cost to avoid forgery of certificates for Google, and at best works after the fact.
1
Show replies