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> the most degoogled AOSP version on the market AOSP doesn't have Google apps and services in the first place. GrapheneOS is a privacy/security research and engineering project, not a "degoogling" project. I think you're confused about what the project develops and provides.

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I ain't confused. I love the idea behind the project. Not being a developer, I'm worried about is google phone and google's power to plant something on a hardware level. Another question. How can I contribute to the project?

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> Not being a developer, I'm worried about is google phone and google's power to plant something on a hardware level. I don't understand your tunnel vision focus on Google. There are a bunch of companies involved in manufacturing any given smartphone. Foxconn assembles them.

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What kind of hardware is it you want supported that would make you feel better? I can't think of anything that would be more trustworthy, and anything else would offer less privacy/security. So far, no one has even identified another device with non-broken support for other OSes.

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It doesn't appear that there are going to be many options suitable for GrapheneOS. Custom hardware would be nice, but there are still going to be a bunch of trusted parties involved in manufacturing components along with the manufacturer. It would mostly be a reference design.

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A benefit of custom hardware would be for GrapheneOS to have control over SoC firmware, which would reduce attack surface and allow lower-level hardening. It would be possible to make some changes improving hardware security but it would be difficult just to match Pixel security.

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In all likelihood, an initial GrapheneOS device would be less secure than Pixels rather than more secure, because it would start as a barebones SoC reference design with a lot of work to do in order to catch up to Pixel security let alone overtaking it. That's also very far away.

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