Did you use Copperhead? I'm not sure who to trust from that fiasco..
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It's a good point the choice of Copperhead or GrapheneOS is very confusing. Each one claims they are better. Which one has a future?
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If they're both open source and the differences aren't massive, technically speaking, it's entirely possible that both have a future. In that kind of a case the vast majority of development effort can actually be shared between the projects and usually is.
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Copperhead doesn't have its signing keys anymore. The main dev left one day and the project blew up because of it. I haven't had updates on that phone in a year or two.
The dev then setup Graphene OS.
I guess it's clearer why I asked now ;)
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This isn't an accurate portrayal of what happened. I didn't leave Copperhead but rather there was a takeover of the company and I was pushed out of it. The project continued onwards as GrapheneOS and still in the early stages of being revived after so much damage has been done.
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There's an ongoing war on the project by the same people involved in that crisis. That includes them spreading misinformation, intimidating contributors/supporters and many other ways of causing as much damage as they can. It has led to the current situation of the project.
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From my pov, all that could be true, but still issues with how both sides conducted themselves afterwards. I want a team I can count on, and seeing Copperhead assets promoting a GrapheneOS makes the situation look extremely messy, where a clean break would've been better IMO
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It's being dealt with, and work is in progress to get back control of the accounts stolen by Copperhead along with stopping them from continuing to steal the code and break the licensing terms. It's definitely a terrible situation to have a sponsor betray the project like this.
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You're repeating their malicious false claims about what happened in this tweet. You're unintentionally helping them to continue causing harm.
twitter.com/thomaskerin/st
I hope you can see how that would cause harm to the project, and why I'm responding the way that I am to it.
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Copperhead doesn't have its signing keys anymore. The main dev left one day and the project blew up because of it. I haven't had updates on that phone in a year or two.
The dev then setup Graphene OS.
I guess it's clearer why I asked now ;)
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You suggest that a clean break, but this is the original project started before Copperhead existed as a company and continued on after they tried to take over control/ownership through ultimatums/threats, against all the agreed upon terms for the company's involvement.
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They're free to stop illegally using my legacy code and falsely claiming to have created it and the project. It's thoroughly dishonest and primarily aimed at causing continued harm to GrapheneOS. They continue to attack the project on a day to day basis. It isn't old news...
Clean break would be Copperhead going their own way and not continuing to leech / steal from a project they pushed out. They can give back the stolen accounts, stop using the stolen code and stop the day to day misinformation and underhanded attacks on the project. Would be nice.
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The fact that you're confused and misinformed about what happened goes to show how incredibly harmful their actions have been and continue to be. I don't know what else to say beyond that. It's easy to see through their scam by checking the sources and their own legal threats.