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More than 7 years ago, I started the #FreeYourAndroid campaign for

@fsfe

: FreeYourAndroid.org Today, it is easier than ever to run a system with only free (libre) apps...

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Free Your Android! - FSFE

Regain control of your Android device and your data: this campaign is about freedom, control and privacy.

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I rather not use android at all, and go for an OS done by people that care about Free Software, privacy and community (Ubuntu Touch by

@UBports

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Users will have substantially better privacy and security on an Android Open Source Project based OS than what you're proposing. The FOSS mobile app ecosystem is also far superior. You really have it backwards and you're just pushing dishonest FUD which is incredibly predictable.

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I'm not. And you clearly don't know Ubuntu Touch, and the

@UBports

community. The OS is Free Software, the app ecosystem on Ubuntu Touch is almost entirely Free Software, and the OS doesn't call home. I'm not pushing FUD, Android is not a great platform for privacy.

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AOSP is Free Software and unlike Ubuntu, it doesn't have telemetry / analytics. It also has drastically superior privacy / security instead of being complete junk with a barely existent security model and mitigations. You're making completely dishonest and clearly bogus claims.

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AOSP is not what most people get on their devices they get something else based on that with modifications and tons of proprietary software and services calling home. Ubuntu and Ubuntu Touch are Free Software licensed under GPL. You're the one making bogus claims.

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AOSP is Free Software too. The thread is about AOSP-based open source operating systems, so I don't know why you're pretending the discussion is about something else. You came here on the attack, spreading misinformation/spin to promote something else. It's not welcome at all.

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AOSP has a far superior app sandbox and permission model which has had to go through many years of painful changes to reach the status quo. Similarly, the OS has a drastically superior security architecture and implementation, and has great adoption of modern mitigations vs. not

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even having basic early 2000s mitigations fully adopted in 2019, which is a complete joke. I'm not sure why people involved in the traditional desktop Linux software stack feel like they're in a position to attack modern OSes on privacy/security. Your ignorance is embarrassing.

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I didn't attacked AOSP, I did a critic of Android, which is not only AOSP, and this initiative by the FSFE, is based on the premise that Android as is shipped to the consumers is not only composed of Free Software and privacy respecting software and services.

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Therefore the need do offer Free Software alternatives to its pre-installed apps. Which is great for those who have to use, or want to use Android, or one of it's free cousins like Lineage which focus more on AOSP than Android as shipped by google and hardware vendors.

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