Conversation

Replying to

twitter.com/justsee/status Comment #1 trying to make my criticism of software into a personal jab at someone that works on security even though the problems are largely not their fault and may have fought against things I disagree with all the way.

Quote Tweet

Justsee

@justsee

Jul 25, 2019

Replying to @DanielMicay

What are the serious issues with security, how are they any different to every other software-at-scale project and how has @bcrypt unsatisfactorily dealt w them?

Replying to

I didn't say it currently has major security issues but that it has had them and they were majorly self-inflicted wounds with obviously terrible design decisions. As I hinted at elsewhere I dislike the overly complex maze of commits and messy ways they approach things in general.

Replying to

Comment #2: twitter.com/justsee/status I said it's "starting to seem nefarious" which is not saying that they are literally malicious people but that it's starting to seem that way externally. The attempt at justifying it just reinforced that and I'd word it way stronger now...

Quote Tweet

Justsee

@justsee

Jul 25, 2019

Replying to @justsee @DanielMicay and @bcrypt

How is their intent nefarious? Have seen a lot of vague attempts at casting shade on @BrendanEich project with nothing of substance. Criticism of monetising content is criticism of entire internet industry, not particular to Brave? In that context theirs seems like better model?

Replying to

"Criticism of monetising content is criticism of entire internet industry" is clearly not the case, and is just you spinning and misrepresenting what I said from the start. I didn't criticize monetizing content. This is where you ping him, so he saw this first, not my tweets.

Replying to

> Monetizing other people's content was always sketchy It's not hard for any neutral reader to see the point I was making in relation to your comment, pointing out that if monetising other peoples content is sketchy, well that's the whole internet.

Replying to

Not sure why you'd think anyone would buy the attempt to paint me as some random dishonest internet troll, rather than an interested party who makes no apologies for being vocal about any contradictions I see. I could of course be wrong / stupid / lacking context w my criticisms

Replying to

The fact that you have been incredibly dishonest and started with your trolling and attempt to create conflict from the start. The whole approach of feigning misunderstanding and misinterpreting things deliberately doesn't work with me. Go act like scum somewhere else instead.

Replying to

As a longtime watcher of the Brave project I've seen *a lot* of bad faith actors engage in all sorts of underhand, distorted arguing online, including accusing honest participants of being the dishonest ones. That's what I'm feeling here, but will reserve my judgement.

Replying to

If I assume good faith on your part, and that the name-calling is partly out of rough dealing with Brave team so you're primed to attack perceived 'trolls' - then reserving judgement is just waiting for a clear outline of your issues with the project.

Replying to

I am happy to disregard the wrong-headed labelling of me as dishonest and a troll - easily refuted - and look forward to a clear outline of what issues you have w the project. I'm more than happy to switch from a supporter if there are underlying major issues w model.

Replying to

It's easily confirmed from your comments, not refuted. I don't care if you support the project. I don't care about convincing you otherwise. I only cared about defending myself and not allowing misinformation to be spread to other people reading my feed.

4:40 AM · Jul 26, 2019Twitter Web App

Replying to

I gave them bad advice before (i.e. if you want ad-blocking and some very minor anti-fingerprinting, etc. consider Brave) and I need to correct that. I had the wrong idea from the Android app implementation at the time. I thought it was something it's not. I'm sorry, I was wrong.