No Best Way = Worse is Better.
I object to double standards. Apps (including big ones) use safetynet and are not pilloried for "DRM" or accused of "enforced viewing".
Use the same yardstick on us.
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I do call that DRM consistently. I'm using the same standards. I was very put off when I saw that Brave was doing this. Regardless, I suggested a stronger way of doing it without a hard dependency on a Google service to try to be helpful and was basically told to fuck off.
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github.com/brave/browser- is one of the places that this started and github.com/brave/browser- is another. Notice how in both cases I was trying to help and was told to fuck off in response. I even put in work to resolve an issue for other browsers, but you aren't welcome to use it.
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I talked about it on Twitter a while ago, which was followed with you folks spreading misinformation about Chromium and Android without Play Services. I took a deeper look into what Brave has been doing in particular with using SafetyNet attestation as a form of advertising DRM.
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You can whine all you want in my mentions about a couple tweets that I posted retracting my endorsement of Brave while saying I still considered it a better choice than Firefox. You did the opposite of changing my mind about not supporting it. I will actively fight you scumbags.
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I'm not whining, I'm calling you either an ignoramus or a liar.
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This is such a tragedy. Why did this have to start out so bitter and adversarial? You are both good people trying to do the right thing.
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You can see where it starts down the wrong path at twitter.com/justsee/status where someone tries to make criticizing the project into a personal attack on and then claims I am casting shade on with a ping to bring him into the conversation. Clear concern troll.
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I apologised for poor wording. As I said, I'm just an end-user who was interested in your / Brendan / Yan's discussion on this.
Don't appreciate the concern troll label just because I was trying to understand logical positions, challenge logical contradictions.
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Also, from my perspective as a long-time follower of both of you for different reasons, it clearly went wrong around this sequence of events:
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That's not what you are doing. You keep misrepresenting my statements and trying to spin them into something else. You were largely the one that created this conflict by going out of your way to troll. My issues with Brave after this conversation are 100-fold what they were.
It was a stretch to take your initial 2 tweets as a good faith attempt to communicate but I did that and started elaborating before having Brendan come here explicitly not wanting to hear what I wanted to say and just repeating nonsense over & over and arguing word definitions.
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I will definitely be writing about Brave's messed up ad system, cryptocurrency, ICO launch, and the usage of DRM to try to make it work. I usually don't have the motivation to write blog posts rather than tweets and comments that are less formal and don't require extensive work.
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