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May 5, 2019

GitHub - hoehermann/purple-signald: Pidgin libpurple bridge to signald.

Pidgin libpurple bridge to signald. Contribute to hoehermann/purple-signald development by creating an account on GitHub.

Catherine

@whitequark

May 5, 2019

like, precisely. pidgin is an insecure piece of shit. signal desktop is an unusable piece of shit. when did we collectively forget how to write desktop apps that are minimally functional twitter.com/rqu45/status/1

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Catherine

@whitequark

May 5, 2019

signal is the one electron app i do not outright refuse to use and i regret it almost every day

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Maybe signal-cli? github.com/AsamK/signal-c Or is there a libpurple implementation you could use from Bitlbee?

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GitHub - AsamK/signal-cli: signal-cli provides an unofficial commandline and dbus interface for...

signal-cli provides an unofficial commandline and dbus interface for signalapp/libsignal-service-java - GitHub - AsamK/signal-cli: signal-cli provides an unofficial commandline and dbus interface f...

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i've seriously considered using signald but it seems like that'd also be kind of a nightmare

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It's also quite possible that it will break because Signal makes backwards incompatible changes and forces updating the client. It regularly phases out support for older client versions and forces people to upgrade so they don't need to worry about older protocol versions.

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It requires an ongoing commitment to quickly adapting to any of the upstream changes. I don't think it can really be relied upon to continue working. The upstream project also doesn't like that it exists and doesn't want people using their server with alternate clients.

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doesn't signald wrap the official java library?

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It uses a very lightly modified fork and is currently missing the most recent minor bug fix release from a few days ago. The library doesn't completely abstract it though so it still has to adapt to various changes. The library doesn't offer any guarantee of a stable API.

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It's also completely possible that they'll do things like migrating their code to Kotlin similar to how they started replacing Objective-C with Swift in their iOS app. It can definitely work long-term, but it depends on keeping up with everything that ends up changing in Signal.

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what do you think about libsignal-protocol-c?

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I think that's a lower-level component than libsignal-service-java equivalent to github.com/signalapp/libs. It's the cryptographic protocol rather than the higher level messaging protocol. They use the C code in the iOS app and the Android app and server both use the Java code.

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