That's true, but I don't think deletion should be possible once there's a confirmation that it has been seen, including interaction with the app, and being able to go back deep into the history to make deletions is an extreme violation of that.
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I still don't think you should be able to delete a message that has definitely been seen, without the consent of the person receiving it. A feature for that definitely plays into the hands of abusers. A time limit doesn't really change much.
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If they want to give people an undo button that always works, they could have something like a toggle for delaying all your messages by 30s, giving you the ability to undo since the message hasn't actually been sent. Toggle it on when drunk and/or angry or whatever.
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I don't deleting messages people have already read without their consent to delete it has any substantial non-malicious use case though. I would fully support features to request deletion of messages of ranges of messages on the other side, but not without their consent to do it.
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Or alternatively, sending someone an offensive picture to harass, then deleting the evidence, since they're extremely unlikely to take a screenshot of something they don't want to see vs. high likelihood of a screenshot of something they want to see and you didn't mean to send.
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Consider something like an abusive relationship where it's only much later that the victim acts upon it. They've given the abuser the ability to clean up past evidence over time, so that there's hardly any left by the time the victim actually needs the proof.
Being abused by someone often doesn't imply you are immediately going to block them. I'm not talking about receiving an offensive message from a stranger. Gaslighting is part of it too. They can deny they sent it, and you don't even have proof for yourself that you ever got it.
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Yeah, that's true. I think we can agree the long-term deletion capability is a bad one. I'm still not a fan of the short term one, but it's less bad,
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