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Phil Greaves‏ @PhilGreaves01 17 Jun 2018

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Phil Greaves Retweeted Alessandra

Here "Global Elite" is nothing more than a crude synonym for "International Jewry", and the typical European chauvinist's attempt to shield "one's own elite".https://twitter.com/alessabocchi/status/1008289619765547008 …

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Immigration is a tool to serve the interests of international capital by putting downward pressure on wages to increase surplus value for the global elite. https://twitter.com/cnn/status/1007790128713125888 …

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Phil Greaves‏ @PhilGreaves01 17 Jun 2018

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Marx did not ever "write against immigration", but the capitalist manipulation & exploitation of the working class on a global scale. Also the link you provide is actually written by Engels, & completely irrelevant, but carry on...https://twitter.com/alessabocchi/status/1008314242922090503 …

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When Marxist-Leninists practice mental gymnastics to justify why they’re actually on the side of the capitalist ruling class. Little do they know Marx would disavow them immediately since he wrote against immigration, something they have yet to reply to. https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1845/condition-working-class/ch06.htm … https://twitter.com/philgreaves01/status/1008312902284120064 …

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Cú Chulainn‏ @Cukullen 17 Jun 2018

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Engels reference is indeed relevant to Marx's discussion of the reserve army of capital. https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/ch25.htm … @alessabocchi

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Phil Greaves‏ @PhilGreaves01 17 Jun 2018

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Its not relevant to our discussion, only in that Marx & Engels position on the surplus army marries mine wrt immigration in Europe, in direct contradistinction to European nationalists like these Berlusconi creeps.https://twitter.com/PhilGreaves01/status/902888035376881664 …

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"It is the secret by which the capitalist class maintains its power." - https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1870/letters/70_04_09.htm … pic.twitter.com/2A9xbs3Nmj

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Cú Chulainn‏ @Cukullen 17 Jun 2018

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Marx in no way supports immigration--he recognizes capital's reserve army as a tool to divide the proletariat. globalized capital is destroying the nation-state, as the nation-state replaced local economies with national markets. it is natural but futile that people oppose this.

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Phil Greaves‏ @PhilGreaves01 17 Jun 2018

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What a dickish remark. Marx advocated the eventual abolition of nations you utter moron, thus his problem was not migration per se, but the capitalist mode of production & the capitalist classes exploitation of both migrant & domestic labour.

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Cú Chulainn‏ @Cukullen 17 Jun 2018

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Marx did not advocate abolition of nations but of states and, more basically, of the commodity and all its retinue--money, religion, politics etc. Bolshevist state-capitalism radicalized the tradition of Social Democracy which Marx opposedhttps://twitter.com/Cukullen/status/948320395400269825 …

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he spent his final years fighting the marxists (Critique of Gotha Program); there are several citations, e.g. re. the French, Engels to Bernstein Nov 2-3, 1882: "Marx once said to Lafargue: ‘Ce qu'il y a de certain c'est que moi, je ne suis pas Marxiste.’" http://marxists.catbull.com/archive/marx/works/1882/letters/82_11_02.htm …

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Phil Greaves‏ @PhilGreaves01 17 Jun 2018

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"Money, religion---the nation, etc". You talk a lot of waffle, but not much else.

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Cú Chulainn‏ @Cukullen 17 Jun 2018

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Marx begins _Capital_ with the analysis of commodity fetishism because exchange begins the process of political economy--the maximalist communist program has always been abolition not just of capital but of all it implies. your disagreement is with Marx.

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  Again, just high-falutin waffle. Does "all it imply" include the nation? Or do you think nations are "essential" or "natural" things?
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