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    1. Crommunist‏ @Crommunist Apr 26

      Crommunist Retweeted Deborah Brennan

      This is probably a better question for people who study radicalization and hate groups, because I'm sure there's empirical evidence on best practices. But I have a few scattered thoughts.https://twitter.com/DBrennanHQ/status/989598534956666880 …

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      Deborah Brennan @DBrennanHQ
      Replying to @Crommunist
      I've learnt a lot about incels today. Yours was a great thread, well written. Thanks. So my question is how as a society do we help them engage? Or don't we?
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    2. Crommunist‏ @Crommunist Apr 26

      First, I think it's useful to recognize the existence of a continuum, with "lonely and confused guy with anger and entitlement issues" on one end and "full-blown incel" on the other. Some people on this spectrum are reachable, I believe some are not.

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    3. Crommunist‏ @Crommunist Apr 26

      Second, I think it's important to be clear about what the goals of engagement are. If the goal is to 'deconvert' someone within the span of a conversation using bulletproof logic and evidence, I wish you luck because I don't think people work that way.

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    4. Crommunist‏ @Crommunist Apr 26

      Third, I think in this particular case HOW you engage is informed by who you ARE, and who you're TALKING TO. Gender and perceived desirability are going to affect how persuasive your arguments are going to be.

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      Crommunist‏ @Crommunist Apr 26

      Fourth, I think that the rise of the 'incel' identity is largely due to the ability of the internet to create microcommunities. These guys don't meet or interact in real life, and are often far-flung. 'Incel' forums provide a sense of identity and camaraderie .

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        2. Crommunist‏ @Crommunist Apr 26

          (Fourth cont.) This suggests to me that PART of the answer has to be to starve the 'incel' groups by building inviting communities and constructive identities for the kinds of men they prey on and recruit. That's hard work.

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        3. Crommunist‏ @Crommunist Apr 26

          Fifth, I think we need to address the way in which the broader society validates the misogynistic beliefs that help DEFINE the 'incel' community but aren't necessarily UNIQUE to them. 'Sexual conquest as a defining part of masculinity' is perhaps chief among them.

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        4. Crommunist‏ @Crommunist Apr 26

          (Fifth cont.) but there's a whole constellation of misogyny that 'incels' are responding to. We address the problem of the EXISTENCE of 'incels' by addressing some of the conditions that create them.

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        5. Crommunist‏ @Crommunist Apr 26

          But none of these ideas are based on empirical fact. These are just things that I have come to believe based on a few years following and participating in these conversations.

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        1. Crommunist‏ @Crommunist Apr 26

          I regret the use of the phrase "real life" here. The internet is real life. What I mean to say is that they are not communities based on face-to-face interaction, and are not based on the whole person - just their single-issue obsession.

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