Good point, there are no examples I can think of where anyone has portrayed #eugenics positively in fiction.https://twitter.com/asbdahfg/status/1451190937179148288 …
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Replying to @RokoMijic
C'mon Roko - gonna lose your nerd card for this one. Dune and a movie version was even released recently.
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Replying to @CovfefeAnon @RokoMijic
......is Gattaca not a positive depiction?
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Replying to @MogTheUrbanite @RokoMijic
No; it forces itself to be logically inconsistent just to have the appropriate anti message
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Replying to @CovfefeAnon @RokoMijic
"Starship Troopers Effect" Just because it wasn't meant to be positive doesn't mean it wasn't I certainly didn't get done watching it and go "we better ban eugenics" I went "I should train harder and buy a nice suit, hopefully they'll have that for my kids generation"
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Replying to @MogTheUrbanite @RokoMijic
Let's call it something other than the Starship Troopers effect because that really was meant to undermine the idea. Maybe Gattaca was actually pro-e but they threw in the ostensibly anti-e ending *that made no logical sense* to undermine the undermining of their intent.
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Replying to @CovfefeAnon @RokoMijic
That's fair. Being a Christian, my take is "No one knows a man's measure but God" from the ending that is in fact illogical otherwise.
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Replying to @MogTheUrbanite @RokoMijic
In a moral and spiritual sense, sure. A bit less with regards to a heart defect (not even logical to test genetically for it when they could test it physically). Only God may know a man's measure but that doesn't mean anyone can win a gold medal in pole vaulting.
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Replying to @CovfefeAnon @RokoMijic
Completely agree. I take it as a caution against hubris and ignore the rest of whatever point they were trying to make
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After reading this thread I’ve changed my mind on Gattaca. It’s actually more a warning about credentialism than it is about eugenics. The doctor was the true hero because he stepped outside the system when he recognized its limitations.
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Good take.
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Replying to @ChekovNuclear @CovfefeAnon and
Nothing to add, other than this is like being with friends in a dive bar and I'm the friend who's sitting on a chair pulled up to the booth listening to his friends have a great conversation and I followed every point because I also read the book etc.. and i got the next round
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