Hobbes is wrong not because the world isn't violent but because violence is a team sport and to be successful at violence men need to be able to trust their team.
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There's no day zero. The men around you aren't random souls put there through Rawl's veil of ignorance, they're descended from the few men who conquered the area and the many local women they married - and so are you. They're your cousins.
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Yes and no. Does his philosophy apply to our ancestors at some point if you go back arbitrarily far? Sure. Is that meaningful or interesting to apply this to people today as if the intervening evolutionary pruning hadn't happened? No, not really.
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Amusingly, we've managed to recreate Hobbes' world with mass movement of people
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