Dumping on PUAs because of what they note empirically works to get women attracted is a bad sign for the speaker. PUAs don't advocate "no dinner dates" out of woman-hatred - they advocate it because if a man's goal is to get a woman attracted to him, dinner dates work against it https://twitter.com/clawsonsmithy/status/1411841854958493696 …
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Some of the damage from being a mind-killed progressive in 2007 is permanent (okay, all of my factual beliefs about how the world actually works were totally wrong, but you can't take away the æsthetic!!)
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If you can abstract at the right level that damage serves as a nice early warning system for dangerous thought.
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