On a practical level, when choosing what society to live in, I think there are a lot of factors more important than whether the local priests of power invoke the People or the King.
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Let's imagine that, all else equal, monarchy is better. I'd still rather live in a democratic Switzerland than a monarchical Swaziland.
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@CovfefeAnon,@17cShyteposter, you guys always have interesting thoughts on this stuff.1 reply 0 retweets 2 likesShow this thread -
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I had a thread about this general area. Obfuscated power structures are the worst because they divorce power from responsibility. Comparing Swiss democracy vs Swazi monarchy isn't like to like but democratic states can screw up their demographics, too.https://twitter.com/CovfefeAnon/status/1356021082394927104 …
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Oh, cool thread! To clarify, I get that Swiss-to-Swazi comparison isn't like to like. My point is that the other ways in which they're un-alike are more important than the monarchy/democracy distinction, making the latter a bit of a "who cares?" IMO.
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Can you clarify for me the distinction between Axis 2 (hidden/open) and 3 (formal/informal)? What would an open informal or a hidden formal society look like?
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Hidden formal is something like the cosa nostra - a structure known to insiders that is intended to be opaque to outsiders. Open informal is interesting - if our system was more open it would be that - "someone from NYT tells you your company is bad, you obey"
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Gotcha. Those two tend to collapse, though, don't you think? Like, the Cosa Nostra, while having a formal structure from the inside, ends up creating an informal structure writ large ("Yeah, Mr. Barone's name is on the building, but Soprano's the guy you've really got to see".)
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Likewise, if you had an open/informal structure ("We just do whatever the NYT tells us"), I would think that functionally becomes a formal structure. It seems like it couldn't really be "open" without be codified / publicly announced, and thus formal.
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Formal / informal is more the structure within the ruling class - is there a formal hierarchy? (yes for the mafia, no for the progressive egregore) Do outsiders know who ranks where in that hierarchy? (No for the mafia, impossible for the egregore). Informal + open is unstable.
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Informal + open will lead to war within the ruling class as they give contradictory orders to test their position and try to dominate each other.
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