Men have no bargaining power over the apps -if there's pussy on offer, men will flock to the app. Men don't even end up with what they want in the modern dating market anyway - they want exclusive possession of a number of hot women - they get shared access to multiple women
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Replying to @CovfefeAnon
Depends, having a rolling harem with the option of a relationship with pretty much any of these women is the highest leverage position in the power stack.
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Replying to @kaschuta
Disagree - it's actually pretty miserable The highest leverage position in the power stack is socially sanctioned marriage to multiple women The position below that as far as pure power goes is hot woman - b/c men will always fight over her Doesn't mean she gets what she wants
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Replying to @CovfefeAnon
My point is that these are tiered systems of leverage and that nobody really gets what they want. It's a defect/defect game theoretic nightmare. We probably just disagree on where the point of maximum leverage is.
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Replying to @kaschuta
I think we disagree on the solution and the source of the problem. The market + the internet will eat away at market friction so what you're seeing is full hypergamy unleashed because of the process I described above The only social solution is to restrain women's sexual choice
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Replying to @CovfefeAnon
I think on the other side of the market you see Coomer tech reducing friction in the most expedient way to fulfil desires for men as well. This is neutering stuff on many levels, not to speak of bathing in hormone disrupters and seed oils. Technocapital > biological urges.
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Replying to @kaschuta
There's no coomer tech that beats women for men - it only exists because of widespread hypergamy. Men who have a real life women - even an unattractive one - and prefer porn are vanishingly rare barring exceptional circumstances (which are increasingly common)
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Replying to @CovfefeAnon
Hmmm, supernormal sexual stimuli are becoming pretty serious, are on-demand, appear in people's lives even before they have a chance to interact with women, and can be pretty stunting. Hypergamy is a powerful force, but it's not the only force at work here.
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Replying to @kaschuta
Supernormal sexual stimuli (again) only really applies to women who can get vibrating implements of any size, shape and firmness. Men get pictures of women - possibly impossibly proportioned women but those are low end - the high end is just pretty women who do porn.
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Replying to @CovfefeAnon
So all this hubbub about ED from excessive porn and guys hooked on cam girls and OF is not true?
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Cam girls and OF are very different from porn - they're the realm of emotional manipulators who are consciously trying to give a false impression of emotional intimacy to the marks. ED from porn is different and I tend to think not exactly real.
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It's an interesting take. No link between ED and porn? What is it then? The other factors causing a freefall of the sperm count in recent years? I think everyone who consumes porn and has a woman knows that if exaggerating (*clears throat*) with porn, the woman will be neglected.
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And I mean neglected specifically because of lack of arousal, or lack of power to act on the arousal, or weak arousal, from the man side.
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