"we" were a very different country then
if the Chinese hit the US now, or even created a Danzig for which we could question dying for...
personally, I dont see much that the US has done in the last 30 years to retain American loyalty
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"CCP is completely indifferent to whether you live or die" is a massive improvement over USG
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I used to think like this ; but I think this is a flawed way to reason ; we don't know how China would act after winning a war vs the US, but there's good reasons to think this would embolden pro-China white (and non-whites) leftists, and that China would support them.
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There's good reasons to believe that China would rather have to deal with a strongly leftist US than a right-wing US ; if only because this would signify a weaker opponent due to leftists inevitably shitting the bed and leading America to ruin (even more than now).
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Furthermore, we see that China understands that left-wing narratives have currency in western countries (especially the US) ; so China is using them to defend itself against the narratives the US will inevitably use to justify war against China (i.e., uighurs oppression, etc.)
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But why should China stop there? Maybe China is looking to take revenge on Japan and the West for the century of humiliation, and western-made leftists narratives could serve as a useful tool (i.e., China supporting the 'liberation of blacks' by funding terrorists and whatnot)
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I think it's hasty to suppose that China ''doesn't care about us'' ; like every great power China is interested in expanding its influence and right-wingers from foreign countries are natural enemies to that sort of thing
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Thinking that China will save civilization is based and all - until you realize that a clever China would utilize the same forces that have weakened the West to win an eventual war against it Why do you think China is making a report on human rights violations in the US? lol
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This isn't to say that we should be aggresively anti-Chinese - China and the Chinese are worthy of respect in many regards - but ultimately I think we stand to lose a lot more from a Chinese victory than a US one.
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That's a coherent argument.
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