Wokeism is liberalism
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Replying to @CovfefeAnon @doukhobour and
I’ve heard that claim, but have never seen a convincing argument. Open to hearing one. What should I read?
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Replying to @mmeJen @doukhobour and
I don't have links ready but the outline of the argument is this: "Liberalism" is a movement that gains energy by destroying order - "liberation" from evolved constraints. The consequences are decay and disorder that only older generations can see. There is no end point.
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Replying to @CovfefeAnon @mmeJen and
Liberation is a Marxian term of art. You can source it in the academic literature. Those people are explicitly anti-liberal. Liberalism asserts man's mastery over nature by science and technology. That is a separate and different goal in kind. You're mixing them!
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Replying to @doukhobour @CovfefeAnon and
Liberals: let's master nature and control her to our ends. Conservatives: let's reconcile ourselves to nature (because she is all-powerful and we are fallen and humbled). Progs: let's liberate ourselves by ignoring or denying empirical reality and aiming at utopia.
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Replying to @doukhobour @mmeJen and
To the liberal "mastering nature" includes destroying social institutions that are there to prevent social defection. Human nature is part of nature and the liberal is at eternal war with it. Looks exactly like the "progressive".
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Replying to @CovfefeAnon @doukhobour and
I don’t see how liberalism is necessarily in denial of human nature. I do see how progressivism and wokeism is. I think this is the part I need fleshed out.
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Replying to @mmeJen @doukhobour and
It's a label for a big space of ideas but core to it is a universalism that arises from absurd ideas about "human nature" "All men are endowed by their creator" type nonsense - works well when you're dealing with people of a single ethnicity who are endowed with a similar nature
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Replying to @CovfefeAnon @mmeJen and
Different peoples thrive in different societies and society should be set up so people thrive - not so that liberals can feel good about their pious devotion to an idea. This tension drives the rise of woke-ism. The woke are right - trad American society "privileges whiteness"
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Replying to @CovfefeAnon @doukhobour and
Isn’t another way to say this that our society privileges those that believe and share the same ideals?
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There are lots of ways to say it but the woke phrasing isn't wrong and it resonates so it sticks. Our society does (or did) privilege whiteness and white expectations of behavior around order and cooperation.
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Replying to @CovfefeAnon @doukhobour and
What’s the empirical basis for this claim?
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Replying to @mmeJen @doukhobour and
Listen to the woke, they'll tell you. Simple example emblematic example. "Being / delivering on time" - people value this and understand that other people value it and think less of a person when they hear that he can't. Empirical evidence for the difference abounds.
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