That said, NRx allocates most of its time to attacking liberalism, not wokeism, in part because the side effects of wokeism (resentment, etc.) are factors that increase support for NRx viewpoints. So James may see little benefit in an exchange given NRx remains marginal.
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Replying to @CovfefeAnon @doukhobour and
I’ve heard that claim, but have never seen a convincing argument. Open to hearing one. What should I read?
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Replying to @mmeJen @doukhobour and
I don't have links ready but the outline of the argument is this: "Liberalism" is a movement that gains energy by destroying order - "liberation" from evolved constraints. The consequences are decay and disorder that only older generations can see. There is no end point.
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Replying to @CovfefeAnon @mmeJen and
Liberation is a Marxian term of art. You can source it in the academic literature. Those people are explicitly anti-liberal. Liberalism asserts man's mastery over nature by science and technology. That is a separate and different goal in kind. You're mixing them!
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Replying to @doukhobour @CovfefeAnon and
Liberals: let's master nature and control her to our ends. Conservatives: let's reconcile ourselves to nature (because she is all-powerful and we are fallen and humbled). Progs: let's liberate ourselves by ignoring or denying empirical reality and aiming at utopia.
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Replying to @doukhobour @mmeJen and
To the liberal "mastering nature" includes destroying social institutions that are there to prevent social defection. Human nature is part of nature and the liberal is at eternal war with it. Looks exactly like the "progressive".
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Replying to @CovfefeAnon @mmeJen and
russian peasant, gulag escape artist Retweeted James Lindsay, not Dr Rollergator
Liberalism is empirical. Liberationism (prog) is utopian. They are opposites, not the same! Liberals challenge necessity. This is their role. Hence, they question institutions. Conservatives defend necessity, hierarchy, nature. This is the balance.https://twitter.com/ConceptualJames/status/1370378105651625987 …
russian peasant, gulag escape artist added,
James Lindsay, not Dr Rollergator @ConceptualJamesThe intentionally utopian character of liberationism, which is the conceptual basis of Wokeness at the practical level, isn't merely to be inferred. It's explicit. Marcuse's point here is that it's time for utopia! And he has a plan (subversion and Aufhebung of existing society). pic.twitter.com/NOm4xuFm5EShow this thread2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes -
Replying to @doukhobour @mmeJen and
Liberalism is empirical right up until you start pointing out the empirical reality of human differences.
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Replying to @CovfefeAnon @mmeJen and
That is corruption. Liberalism has not always been anti-empirical. Fault also belongs to conservatives, who failed to curb liberalism's excesses. I do not see you blaming conservatives? Conservatives were corrupted by globalists and libertarians. This contributed to imbalance.
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Yes, "conservatives" are to blame because they took the insane approach of trying to conserve past liberalism when liberalism is like a shark that must swim forward or suffocate. James is the conservative here trying to preserve past liberalism.
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