While I see most of humanity as in a fallen state to what may have existed before, this is magnified with cultures where such beating is permissive. (Like in parts of Russia) This is different than risking your life in fighting for your county / community.
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>Education for one thing We'll just send those couples to school to learn respect and tolerance and how she shouldn't be turned on by violence and how she shouldn't have an innate desire to test her man's strength. We can call it the Academy of Undoing Evolution. Liberalism
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Replying to @CovfefeAnon @LevPo and
You talk about this as if humanity has failed your moral principles so it's humanity that has to change. This is exactly why liberalism spirals into the madness we see today - because it gets people wrong from the very start and would rather destroy everything than admit it.
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Replying to @CovfefeAnon @The_WGD and
Humanity may have already changed to a lower version of itself over time. There have been cultures that beat less and that beat more. Somehow the cultures that beat less were able to solve their problems and command respect with less violence.
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Replying to @LevPo @CovfefeAnon and
To think that the only alternative to the masses beating ones family is to be some reddit tier polyamorous rat utopia hellhole after being "educated" may not take other alternatives in consideration.
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and yet reddit tier polyamorous rat utopia hell is exactly what followed whenever the threat was absolutely removed by "well meaning" liberals like you. If Russia is on the road to recovery from that then great.
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Replying to @CovfefeAnon @LevPo and
JD Unwin proved beyond any doubt that civilizational achievement is positively correlated with female premarital chastity. He studied 80 cultures and came to the conclusion that once sexual strictures are eased societies typically last3 generations before irreversible dissolution
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Replying to @orphicmysteries @CovfefeAnon and
I'm not arguing against this but as far as how to go about it without degenerating in a different sense.
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Replying to @LevPo @CovfefeAnon and
@CovfefeAnon was making the point that this isnt a problem that can be fixed. Some must sacrifice for the whole. We in modernity forget that the world is gritty and terrible by nature and you can never fully smooth out the relations between the sexes1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes -
Replying to @orphicmysteries @CovfefeAnon and
Fully smoothed out is not possible not desirable to live in morbid sterility but it looks like you've made your mind up in only seeing this sacrifice of liberty as the way to fix it. Progressive liberals on the other hand made up their minds seeing anything good in the past.
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You're framing having an all powerful state arbitrate every dispute between husband and wife as an expansion of liberty. Destroy every social structure except the state for ...liberalism.
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Replying to @CovfefeAnon @The_WGD and
You already decided that this all powerful state is the only way to keep society from going the natural route. I disagree. This requires an influential local elite whose behavior is to be emulated. I think you'd agree that most of our current elite doesn't measure up at all.
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Exactly backwards. The state does best and is strongest when it delegates - husbands with authority over their families, men with authority over their property, ministers with authority over their area (and corresponding responsibility). Liberalism denies all of those.
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