Which is why the false paternity rate < 2% everywhere in the Western world, going back at minimum hundreds of years.
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Replying to @gcochran99 @buck_tulson
Men have a stronger interest in preventing women from acting on those desires but since women almost all reproduce their desire to do so hasn't been selected out. Men win that contest when society doesn't break down.
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Replying to @CovfefeAnon @buck_tulson
There's an even simpler hypothesis.
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Replying to @gcochran99 @buck_tulson
You have a massive selective event for men ~10k years ago. There's no such selective pressure for women. There's no mtDNA selective bottleneck to radically change women's nature so they get minor tweaks to the old behavioral program which is still there and ready to activate.
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My argument isn't the one you discussed here - that sexual dimorphism in behavior developed, it's that women have an older behavioral program (play men against each other) that got tweaked (be faithful to a tribe-backed husband) http://www.gnxp.com/MT2/archives/003689.html …
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Replying to @CovfefeAnon @buck_tulson
The behavior under discussion doesn't exist today ( in the populations looked at - mostly European) and there's good evidence that it's been rare for centuries. Simplest explanation: the idea is just wrong.
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Replying to @gcochran99 @buck_tulson
What behavior do you think doesn't exist? Women absolutely are polygynous today. It shows up anecdotally in "polyamory" where men share a woman, it shows up common experience where top men have harems of women that also have rotations of men and it shows up formally in GSSpic.twitter.com/xBq8nIVSuZ
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who people have sex with is a very different subject when the sex isn't procreative, probably the 'you are married to this woman and you think the kid is yours but it isn't' rate is probably not that far from historical norms.
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Exactly that. Women have behaviors that result in low incidence of reproduction unless some man forces her to stop. This doesn't show up in false paternity but it does show up in other sources of data.
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Well, my simple counter is that you're pretty much wrong. It's amazing how often that is the case for someone's exciting new theory.
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The data you've presented as being against the idea isn't opposed to it (paternity certainty) and haven't accounted in any way for trends that are readily observable both formally and informally. Women aren't naturally monogamous - they're susceptible to social pressure.
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Replying to @CovfefeAnon @gcochran99 and
These look the same when the social pressure is present - as it has been for thousands of years and you can only distinguish the two when there's social breakdown. There's been enormous social breakdown since the 1970s that massively accelerated in 2010.
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