hmm seems like trad-adjacent men mostly talk about problems with men, and trad-adjacent women mostly talk about problems with women so I'd pin it to a self-help-y mindset like "focus on the problems you personally can do something about"
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the mechanisms causing the problems with women are social, but I think any given woman who avoids the conditioning and remains personally virtuous will likely be fine herself
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No A "virtuous" woman is still in a no-win situation because she can't credibly signal that she's virtuous A woman who doesn't go to bed with a guy on the 1st or 2nd meeting isn't presumed chaste - he presumes she's using him for validation or money and getting dick elsewhere
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