Absolutely. The sentence should be "we should *have* done what New Zealand did" - which is entirely different from "should do". It's unsurprising that they can't grasp that it's a different problem Analogy: it's like trying to copy the workout routine of a champion powerlifter
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Replying to @CovfefeAnon
Even New Zealand though, they had to lock-down what, 4 months, to suppress the effect a few dozen positives? What would be the equivalent required-lockdown-length (as a function of seeding) for some place the size of the UK, and how-early would that have required doing it?
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Replying to @soncharm @CovfefeAnon
My hunch is that above some size+density it’s pretty binary: Either you seal-the-borders early enough prevent almost-all seeding, or The only ‘lockdown’ that could successfully-suppress would be infeasibly long and lead to social unrest, hence self-defeating. A non-solution
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Replying to @soncharm
There's another functional solution. Produce working tests that give instant results and can be administered by everyone. Have everyone self test before having contact with other people; isolate if you test positive. Only requires virtuous, conscientious, intelligent people.
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Replying to @CovfefeAnon @soncharm
Solutions based on people being the equivalent of spherical cows is a big reason why this has been such a shitshow...
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Replying to @EricRichards22 @CovfefeAnon
Yeah, I mean a solution saying ‘simply produce instant working tests’ isn’t false, but neither is, say, ‘simply produce an instant cure’
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Replying to @soncharm @EricRichards22
Instant working tests aren't some high bar - FDA actively blocks the development, manufacture and sale of tests.
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Replying to @CovfefeAnon @EricRichards22
I don’t disagree, and I’m all for instant fast rapid tests or whatever (I forget the hashtag/acronym that one guy uses) guess I’m just saying, if bureaucratic hurdles, lack of ‘trust’, etc make that infeasible, that’s also part of reality
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Replying to @soncharm @EricRichards22
Of course it's part of reality. It's the massive downside of importing a (D) vote bank and satisfying the Bryan Caplans of the world. It was a policy choice to have a low trust, declining IQ US.
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Pandemic viruses aren't more likely to actually kill the people who make it impossible to fight them - instead they kill off people who have less reserves of physical health. A case where something isn't self-correcting.
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