Real problem with centrism is that it can't distinguish between fascism and far right. Calling people who openly identify with NRx fascists retards their analysis, accepts the far left's frame, screws up the friend/enemy distinction, and leaves them vulnerable to leftist attack.
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Replying to @The_WGD
Not helped by NRx-adjacents like BAP leaning into fascism.
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Replying to @Nix64261997
Seeing what they want to see. Fascism in the US, even if it's possible, is not coming after centrists.
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Replying to @The_WGD
Fascism in the US was possible, but the hope died with Huey Long. If I'd been active in the 20s and 30s, I'd have been a fascist. It was a good ideology for its time, but this is not its time.
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Replying to @Nix64261997
I guess if I'm going to be consistent, we have fascism in the US. Neoliberalism is American fascism.
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Replying to @The_WGD
Yeah, it is a national socialism for the rich and really, it couldn't have been otherwise for a country founded as an aristocratic republic. Doesn't surprise me that the main vanilla fascist thrust in America comes from French Louisiana and the Nordic-German Midwest.
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Replying to @lit65539723 @The_WGD
Yeah, and my contention is that neolib is fash for the rich. Unlike socialism for the rich (direct transfers, bailouts), neolib is gov/corp cooperation, but this time for the benefit of megacorps and moneybags. NRx is the same thing, but BASED (or so they'd have us believe).
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"Neolib" is the pejorative the farther left uses for the "well, we run this thing so let's have a functional economy while we implement as much leftism as possible" stance. Ultimately it's insane because it's the idea that you can be leftist in a non-total way.
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A functional economy which includes IP, monopoly rights and state-sponsored credit inflation?
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A functional economy which includes food in supermarkets, a reliable electric grid, reliable sewage and waste treatment - none of these things are the case under total leftism.
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I suppose that if I bring up any of the problems with the economy, you'll blame "leftism", right?
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Probably - depends on the problem. The market solves very well for lots of the things that the right wants - it's just prohibited from doing so. Easiest example are all the market adaptations that existed to allow racial segregation. Market saw the demand, supplied. USG no like
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