The "Deep State" conspiracy doesn't just say "hey, there are people who work within the government who aren't working in lockstep with elected officials. It's a claim about a secret hidden government that REALLY controls the US.
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Replying to @TheAmazingBriz @CovfefeAnon and
And the article literally just talks about the people who have steadily been leaving his administration, fed up. Not about someone else who "really" controls the country, but the whistleblowers who tell us what's gone on.
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Replying to @ladyunicornejg @TheAmazingBriz and
You don't even know what the difference between the civil service and the administration is, do you?
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Replying to @CovfefeAnon @TheAmazingBriz and
nobody denied that there are unelected people with a role and influence...
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Replying to @ladyunicornejg @TheAmazingBriz and
What a nice motte and bailey you've set up.
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Replying to @CovfefeAnon @TheAmazingBriz and
Because I point out that there are literally differences and that several things on that chart are simplified to easily fit... It's not like I'm going to get through to the conspiracy-minded, though. I mean this came from "what else are they hiding..."
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Replying to @ladyunicornejg @CovfefeAnon and
As if "yes, people exist who aren't elected officials but play a role - perhaps one beyond what they should - in how the government functions" somehow makes fucking qanon plausible.
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Replying to @ladyunicornejg @TheAmazingBriz and
The chart has two separate entries for Qanon and "the deep state" for a reason. They're separate claims - one clearly nuts, one obviously true - which is the whole point of the chart - to intermix crazy stuff with plainly true stuff - it's called "poisoning the well"
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Replying to @CovfefeAnon @TheAmazingBriz and
Qanon has a hell of a lot more claims than just the deep state. Like the literal blood libel. The ideas of the deep state - well beyond the basics I laid out - have existed for longer than Qanon has. OF COURSE they're going to be separate things.
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You're the one intermixing the claims and trying to dismiss the idea of a deep state (that admits it exists!) by associating it with unrelated claims. Why not go with "there are no lizard people, therefore no deep state" as long as you're mixing claims like that?
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