That's true, but if you look at the history of e.g. the Russian Revolution it's full of "useful idiots", the same is also true of the rise of Hitler. At some point you become a cell in the body of the leftist egregore, and the wishes of the cell matter little.
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Replying to @RokoMijic @RokoMijicUK and
You could argue we are all part of many egregores, though -- some (all?) of them are bound to do their independent bidding. I'm a leftist willingly, but we are a diverse group with many different opinions. I align with libertarian socialism most of all.
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Replying to @flancian @Grumpy_Hoosier and
To exert independent will as a leftist right now I think you have to vote for Trump, oppose immigration & woke, and once things have stabilised back to the politics of ~2000 make plays for sound left-wing ideas like progressive taxation/UBI in America & peace with China.
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Replying to @RokoMijic @RokoMijicUK and
I'm cutting to the chase; global, likely privately backed UBI and a communism-capitalism synthesis (symbiosis?) sums me up currently honestly.
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Replying to @flancian @Grumpy_Hoosier and
Global UBI probably won't work because it will create too many perverse incentives. UBI can work in small, homogeneous countries like pre-immigration Sweden. In the USA that's already pushing it, but it might be possible if immigration is cut to 0.
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Replying to @RokoMijic @RokoMijicUK and
Might be. Seems like it's worth a try, though: having it be global allows for 1. exploiting economic gradients; 1st world pays for 3rd world within groups with weak national identities (e.g. socialism). 2. circumventing default national identities, usually polar (e.g. dems/rep).
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Replying to @flancian @RokoMijicUK and
How hard is it to get a like with your crowd? ;) Like, am I really so alone in finding these ideas, if not wholly reasonable, at least an interesting possibility? Or is it that people are against UBI? It seems like such a reasonable thing to at least *try* to me.
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Replying to @flancian @RokoMijicUK and
UBI is a total poison pill coming from the left. Someone gets canceled and his UBI checks stop and he objects; the reply to people defending him: "You mean you support UBI for *Nazis*? Are you a Nazi?" It's a blatant desire to create dependence so it can be used for control
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Replying to @CovfefeAnon @flancian and
this doesn't seem like a big problem. If you get cancelled and are out of work without UBI, you are in the same bind.
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Replying to @RokoMijic @RokoMijicUK and
You might be more open thinking UBI backstops you and then you find out that it doesn't. Like finding out that a parachute doesn't work after you've been thrown off a plane. Either way, the same incentives exist with UBI as all gibs - they go to only progressive pets.
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The crude "that shit already free" cartoon about why Bernie didn't get enough black votes to win the (D) nomination explains the forces
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