But if you make an entire army out of women (i.e. you can't be very selective), then yeah as a whole it will have female average or near-average traits and it will behave accordingly, i.e. it will suck at fighting and likely surrender.
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Replying to @RokoMijic @RokoMijicUK and
Elite picked women lose (badly) to under 15 year old boys in soccer and hockey. Not only are they physically outmatched, women simply aren't selected for the ability to cooperate in anything resembling a war band
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yes but those under 15 boys would thrash 99.9% of men at soccer! The elite sporting women are at the 99.9th percentile of the male ability distribution, which is pretty much what overlapping distributions says.
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Replying to @RokoMijic @RokoMijicUK and
No, I don't think that's accurate at all - u15 boys are at a huge disadvantage against men. You routinely hear stories about how elite college women's teams will scrimmage with pickup teams of guys from the same college (and get thrashed) in various sports.
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U-15 men's national soccer teams would win 20-0 or better against the fat 40-year old men from the pub. The average man is unfit and unskilled.
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Replying to @RokoMijic @RokoMijicUK and
When you hold training, relative talent for the sport and team work close to a constant you get a good comparison of physical abilities between men and women. When you throw away the commonalities to compare the u15s to out of shape men you're making a bad comparison. 1/2
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Replying to @CovfefeAnon @RokoMijicUK and
The point of the comparison is to get a measurement of the physical differences in capacity which only works when both sides are trained. In events with measurable outcomes like track elite women lose to HS boys. 2/2
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I think there are some traits where the distributions don't overlap, such as bone density and grip strength. Even a fat 40 y/o man from the pub probably has better grip than an elite female athlete.
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Replying to @RokoMijic @RokoMijicUK and
It's surprisingly hard to pin down what's meant by "overall strength" so grip strength is usually used as a proxy (any proxy obviously has problems)
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it's to do with tendons in the hands. The male advantage is overwhelming. Bob from down t'pub has a better grip strength than a woman who trains her entire life.https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00421-006-0351-1 …
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This only applies to *hand* tendons?
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It applies more to some parts of the body and less to others. I think upper body strength is another overwhelming example, but leg strength isn't.
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