I just don't think that's true. Perhaps with the exception of Tucker Carlson though
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Replying to @RokoMijic @RokoMijicUK
Not disparaging Tucker but he's still a popularizer - the brains of the right wing are the anon online guys At this point though the "open back up" people are not wrong because it's been demonstrated that Korean style tracing and testing and quarantining is impossible (for us)
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Replying to @CovfefeAnon
> the "open back up" people are not wrong because it's been demonstrated that Korean style tracing and testing and quarantining is impossible (for us) They're right, but only by accident. WTF would we do if the fatality rate was 30%? We need to up our game.
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Replying to @RokoMijic @RokoMijicUK
If the fatality rate was 30% it would still be right to open up because even that wouldn't make the permanent government capable of stopping it. They're not right by accident; they're right by instinct and because no one has persuaded them that the alternative is better.
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Replying to @CovfefeAnon
Perhaps, but again I feel this is being too generous to the right. Huge swaths of people on the right genuinely didn't take the virus seriously, which I think is ultimately because there is no right-wing academy who they can trust. We need to make that.
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Replying to @RokoMijic @RokoMijicUK
Agree on the lack of a right-wing academy being the real problem. The right-wing masses are far far better at everything than the left wing vote banks (including following reasonable directions) but are unled because the leaders the system allows them to have are their enemies
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Replying to @CovfefeAnon
Trump isn't their enemy; but Trump is more of a pro-Troll than a leader. His immediate reaction to the virus AFAIK was to claim that it was a conspiracy against him. I don't have the time to go through everything but it sure as hell didn't look like leadership.
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Replying to @RokoMijic @CovfefeAnon
But of course we're not allowed a real leader; real leaders get smeared as an X-ist and are weeded out. So we have a troll in charge in the US. Britain has better leadership but the outcome was still bad; the British administration are libertarian right & that was unfortunate.
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Replying to @RokoMijic @RokoMijicUK
I think Trump is a real leader but is under the constraints that he controls almost none of the permanent government and is only able to communicate by manipulating a hostile press. He acts as a master troll because it's the only tool to get the press to report what he wants
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Replying to @CovfefeAnon @RokoMijicUK
So the reports of him being averse to reading aren't true?
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Who the hell knows? I've heard reports that he'd pour over contacts in his spare time when he was in business; almost all the stuff you've heard has been tailored by one person or another with some agenda in mind.
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Replying to @CovfefeAnon @UDepravity
Anyway this thread overall feels like "the dog ate my homework".
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The only concrete, actual screw ups (outside China) in this have been by FDA and CDC; blocking testing early when it could have mattered & producing non-working tests + blocking working tests. The other mistakes are inaction - which has to be judged against the possible
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