I have not said, am not saying, and have never said or implied. Thread ending in END, continued: 5. Genes do not influence individuals. 6. Genetic influences on individuals should not be studied. 7. Population differences in genes do not exist.
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At that level of generality? Of course. That is not equivalent to: All Average Differences Between All Groups Necessarily Have a Genetic Basis
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Replying to @PsychRabble @eyes_skies and
But should scientists be allowed to perform scientific research into questions of: Do Some Average Differences Between Some Groups Have a Genetic Basis?
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Replying to @Steve_Sailer @eyes_skies and
Scientists should be allowed to study anything they choose. But they should also recognize when their methods are not capable of answering certain questions. IMHO, that is one of them. 1/2
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Replying to @PsychRabble @Steve_Sailer and
If they are serious about wanting to answer THAT question, they should FIRST develop methods that are capable of doing so. It will be far easier to develop such methods in simpler contexts, such as working with plants&animals.
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Replying to @PsychRabble @eyes_skies and
Exactly what research on plants and animals relevant to the question of race & IQ in humans hasn't yet been done? What more would need to be done in your view to justify lifting the moratorium you propose on studies of human race & intelligence? I'm genuinely curious.
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Replying to @Steve_Sailer @eyes_skies and
Do exactly what you (and others, here and elsewhere, including some scientists) are asking to be done with race/iq/genetics. 1/2
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Replying to @PsychRabble @Steve_Sailer and
Show that, with intact, naturally occurring populations of the same species, you can conclusively identify the role of genes/environment/interactions in producing group differences.
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Replying to @PsychRabble @Steve_Sailer and
1) This requirement is insane because "environment" is what causes selective pressure for different traits - which then feeds back into genes. They can't be disentangled entirely even though you can look at the genomic changes. 2) Crows fit this to a T. https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1931-0846.2010.00019.x …pic.twitter.com/U37jdvzI7J
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Crows evolved different mental traits as a response to human created environments - caution, later boldness but more emphasis on cleverness the more humans came to dominate their environments. The shift from small scale ag to industrial ag had huge selective effects on crows.
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