I have not said, am not saying, and have never said or implied. Thread ending in END, continued: 5. Genes do not influence individuals. 6. Genetic influences on individuals should not be studied. 7. Population differences in genes do not exist.
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At that level of generality? Of course. That is not equivalent to: All Average Differences Between All Groups Necessarily Have a Genetic Basis
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Replying to @PsychRabble @eyes_skies and
But should scientists be allowed to perform scientific research into questions of: Do Some Average Differences Between Some Groups Have a Genetic Basis?
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Replying to @Steve_Sailer @eyes_skies and
Scientists should be allowed to study anything they choose. But they should also recognize when their methods are not capable of answering certain questions. IMHO, that is one of them. 1/2
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Replying to @PsychRabble @Steve_Sailer and
If they are serious about wanting to answer THAT question, they should FIRST develop methods that are capable of doing so. It will be far easier to develop such methods in simpler contexts, such as working with plants&animals.
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Replying to @PsychRabble @eyes_skies and
My impression is that scientists, and even nonscientists such as dog breeders, have enormous amount of evidence that different populations of animals have different levels and types of intelligence for reasons both of nature and nurture. What else do you want from them?
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Replying to @Steve_Sailer @eyes_skies and
People have been breeding animals for millennia. That work provides exactly 0 evidence that bears on the role of genes/environment/their interaction in producing the characteristics of any naturally-occurring populations of any living thing on any trait.
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Replying to @PsychRabble @Steve_Sailer and
So you can breed for traits about which you're interested in human group differences like impulsiveness, intelligence and planning ability and this provides *zero* evidence about the genetic contribution to those traits in humans? Zero?
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Replying to @CovfefeAnon @PsychRabble and
On this topic how about the genetic changes in corvids and raccoons that live in cities? Similar broad type of selective filter and you notice the exact same changes - intelligence favored over very few generations. Does genetic evidence from there imply anything about humans?
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A few tidbits here that are relevant. Humans hunted crows - resulting in them being selected for cleverness - gene culture interaction dealing with humans resulting in selection for mental traits. https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1931-0846.2010.00019.x …pic.twitter.com/0kTa6Pdkjx
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