* Vulcan (@ulalaunch) - At this stage I think Vulcan isn't going to compete here w/ a) it being tailored for US government missions & b) it being much larger, the baseline Vulcan 522 offering 1/3 higher capabilities than even the current Atlas V 401
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* New Glenn (
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@Firefly_Space/@relativityspace/@ablspacesystems etc.: Definitely the ones to look out for RL w/ Firefly's Beta & Relativity's "Terran-2", however they haven't reached orbit yet, let alone building up reputation. I think at least one of them would give up this market later on.1 Antwort 0 Retweets 9 Gefällt mirDiesen Thread anzeigen -
* European competitors: I don't think anyone thinks of the
@Arianespace Ariane 62 as anything but an institutional launcher (it's -64 that still may fight). As for new private start-ups...erm is there anyone who is close to even flying soon, let alone of such size rockets?
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* Japanese competitors:
@MHI_LS is actually trying to get into this market w/ the core-only H3-30 series, but at <US$ 40M I'm not sure they have the heart to fight other than grabbing several commercial contracts now and then. Time for booster recovery?1 Antwort 0 Retweets 10 Gefällt mirDiesen Thread anzeigen -
* India - To be honest I don't know what's going on w/
@isro's long-delayed RP-1/LOX LV replacements, they seems to be all in on HSF today instead? I thought they could be a dark horse a la PSLV but their new rockets' development schedule feels wrong.1 Antwort 0 Retweets 11 Gefällt mirDiesen Thread anzeigen -
* Chinese competitors: The most provocative foreign competitor of the class w/ their leading reusable rocker candidate based on the exactly-in-same-class Long March 8. Very interesting; yet CASC & other potential private LSPs are literally living in another ecosphere...
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And finally of course there's
@SpaceX - they current handle the "Delta II-Antares" market w/ RTLS Falcon 9s, while Neutron needs ship landing. I doubt that@RocketLab can knock F9 out of the market, but at least there's room for them to coexist a la Antares/Atlas V.1 Antwort 0 Retweets 8 Gefällt mirDiesen Thread anzeigen -
Note that big customers likes to split LV contracts (in this range it's usually F9/Soyuz or F9/Atlas nowadays, not to mention using different size LVs). RL doesn't need to completely beat F9 to stand in the market as is, though perhaps w/ lower flight rate.
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"But what about Starship?" Good question, but I doubt that Starship - assuming it can go in service soon (TM) - have *that* much lower cost than any rocket out there to squash competitors at an order of magnitude smaller. I can definitely see Starship/Neutron splits in contracts.
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So I do think a conventional (?), 1st stage reusable Soyuz-Antares class rocket has quite some market to stand out. Whether RL is the one to capture it remains to be seen, but IMHO the chance is there for @Peter_J_Beck et al. to occupy.
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It is starting to seem like 1st stage reuse is conventional, even though only SpaceX is currently doing it. Funny how fast things change. Half of the new launchers seem to want to do it now :P
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Antwort an @Cosmic_Penguin @Peter_J_Beck
Great analysis of the current and likely future situation! Thanks for sharing
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